Did Ron Weasley have some sort of seer blood or prophetic powers?
“So we’ve just got to try on the hat!” Ron whispered to Harry. “I’ll
kill Fred, he was going on about wrestling a troll.”
-The Philosopher's stone
And they did in fact, wrestle a troll.
“My turn…” Ron peered into Harry’s teacup, his forehead wrinkled with
effort. “There’s a blob a bit like a bowler hat,” he said. “Maybe
you’re going to work for the Ministry of Magic…” He turned the teacup
the other way up. “But this way it looks more like an acorn… what’s
that?” He scanned his copy of Unfogging the Future. “‘A windfall,
unexpected gold.’ Excellent, you can lend me some.
-The Prisoner of Azkaban
Harry did join the Auror department, post-Hogwarts. And he won a thousand gold Galleons in the Triwizard Tournament.
“I’m sorry,” Ron said, moaning a little as he raised himself to look
at them, “but it feels like a – a jinx or something. Can’t we call him
You-Know-Who – please?”
-The Deathly Hallows
Ron seems to have sensed the Taboo on the Dark Lord's name too.
Was all of this pure chance, or did he miss out his chance on becoming the Second Cassandra Trelawney, by not recognizing his talent?
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“So we’ve just got to try on the hat!” Ron whispered to Harry. “I’ll
kill Fred, he was going on about wrestling a troll.”
-The Philosopher's stone
And they did in fact, wrestle a troll.
“My turn…” Ron peered into Harry’s teacup, his forehead wrinkled with
effort. “There’s a blob a bit like a bowler hat,” he said. “Maybe
you’re going to work for the Ministry of Magic…” He turned the teacup
the other way up. “But this way it looks more like an acorn… what’s
that?” He scanned his copy of Unfogging the Future. “‘A windfall,
unexpected gold.’ Excellent, you can lend me some.
-The Prisoner of Azkaban
Harry did join the Auror department, post-Hogwarts. And he won a thousand gold Galleons in the Triwizard Tournament.
“I’m sorry,” Ron said, moaning a little as he raised himself to look
at them, “but it feels like a – a jinx or something. Can’t we call him
You-Know-Who – please?”
-The Deathly Hallows
Ron seems to have sensed the Taboo on the Dark Lord's name too.
Was all of this pure chance, or did he miss out his chance on becoming the Second Cassandra Trelawney, by not recognizing his talent?
harry-potter divination ron-weasley
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This Quora post lists a couple more times when Ron seemingly predicted the future.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 20 '18 at 13:04
1
I'd just like to point out though that this could just be bias because you don't take note of the times when he said something about the future that didn't come true.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 20 '18 at 13:05
2
Not only did Harry win all that money in the Triwizard Tournament, he then lent it to Fred and George to start their joke business (IIRC). So Ron's suggestion that "you can lend me some" wasn't that far off either.
– F1Krazy
Apr 20 '18 at 13:06
1
Me too, just thought it was worth pointing out
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 20 '18 at 13:09
1
@MishaR, so far, that's still a 12:1 success ratio. Anything better than 1:1 or so is unlikely to be a coincidence, so we'd need at least another 11 counter-examples to make the premise look significantly less likely.
– Harry Johnston
Apr 20 '18 at 22:40
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“So we’ve just got to try on the hat!” Ron whispered to Harry. “I’ll
kill Fred, he was going on about wrestling a troll.”
-The Philosopher's stone
And they did in fact, wrestle a troll.
“My turn…” Ron peered into Harry’s teacup, his forehead wrinkled with
effort. “There’s a blob a bit like a bowler hat,” he said. “Maybe
you’re going to work for the Ministry of Magic…” He turned the teacup
the other way up. “But this way it looks more like an acorn… what’s
that?” He scanned his copy of Unfogging the Future. “‘A windfall,
unexpected gold.’ Excellent, you can lend me some.
-The Prisoner of Azkaban
Harry did join the Auror department, post-Hogwarts. And he won a thousand gold Galleons in the Triwizard Tournament.
“I’m sorry,” Ron said, moaning a little as he raised himself to look
at them, “but it feels like a – a jinx or something. Can’t we call him
You-Know-Who – please?”
-The Deathly Hallows
Ron seems to have sensed the Taboo on the Dark Lord's name too.
Was all of this pure chance, or did he miss out his chance on becoming the Second Cassandra Trelawney, by not recognizing his talent?
harry-potter divination ron-weasley
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“So we’ve just got to try on the hat!” Ron whispered to Harry. “I’ll
kill Fred, he was going on about wrestling a troll.”
-The Philosopher's stone
And they did in fact, wrestle a troll.
“My turn…” Ron peered into Harry’s teacup, his forehead wrinkled with
effort. “There’s a blob a bit like a bowler hat,” he said. “Maybe
you’re going to work for the Ministry of Magic…” He turned the teacup
the other way up. “But this way it looks more like an acorn… what’s
that?” He scanned his copy of Unfogging the Future. “‘A windfall,
unexpected gold.’ Excellent, you can lend me some.
-The Prisoner of Azkaban
Harry did join the Auror department, post-Hogwarts. And he won a thousand gold Galleons in the Triwizard Tournament.
“I’m sorry,” Ron said, moaning a little as he raised himself to look
at them, “but it feels like a – a jinx or something. Can’t we call him
You-Know-Who – please?”
-The Deathly Hallows
Ron seems to have sensed the Taboo on the Dark Lord's name too.
Was all of this pure chance, or did he miss out his chance on becoming the Second Cassandra Trelawney, by not recognizing his talent?
harry-potter divination ron-weasley
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This Quora post lists a couple more times when Ron seemingly predicted the future.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 20 '18 at 13:04
1
I'd just like to point out though that this could just be bias because you don't take note of the times when he said something about the future that didn't come true.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 20 '18 at 13:05
2
Not only did Harry win all that money in the Triwizard Tournament, he then lent it to Fred and George to start their joke business (IIRC). So Ron's suggestion that "you can lend me some" wasn't that far off either.
– F1Krazy
Apr 20 '18 at 13:06
1
Me too, just thought it was worth pointing out
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 20 '18 at 13:09
1
@MishaR, so far, that's still a 12:1 success ratio. Anything better than 1:1 or so is unlikely to be a coincidence, so we'd need at least another 11 counter-examples to make the premise look significantly less likely.
– Harry Johnston
Apr 20 '18 at 22:40
|
show 6 more comments
1
This Quora post lists a couple more times when Ron seemingly predicted the future.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 20 '18 at 13:04
1
I'd just like to point out though that this could just be bias because you don't take note of the times when he said something about the future that didn't come true.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 20 '18 at 13:05
2
Not only did Harry win all that money in the Triwizard Tournament, he then lent it to Fred and George to start their joke business (IIRC). So Ron's suggestion that "you can lend me some" wasn't that far off either.
– F1Krazy
Apr 20 '18 at 13:06
1
Me too, just thought it was worth pointing out
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 20 '18 at 13:09
1
@MishaR, so far, that's still a 12:1 success ratio. Anything better than 1:1 or so is unlikely to be a coincidence, so we'd need at least another 11 counter-examples to make the premise look significantly less likely.
– Harry Johnston
Apr 20 '18 at 22:40
1
1
This Quora post lists a couple more times when Ron seemingly predicted the future.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 20 '18 at 13:04
This Quora post lists a couple more times when Ron seemingly predicted the future.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 20 '18 at 13:04
1
1
I'd just like to point out though that this could just be bias because you don't take note of the times when he said something about the future that didn't come true.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 20 '18 at 13:05
I'd just like to point out though that this could just be bias because you don't take note of the times when he said something about the future that didn't come true.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 20 '18 at 13:05
2
2
Not only did Harry win all that money in the Triwizard Tournament, he then lent it to Fred and George to start their joke business (IIRC). So Ron's suggestion that "you can lend me some" wasn't that far off either.
– F1Krazy
Apr 20 '18 at 13:06
Not only did Harry win all that money in the Triwizard Tournament, he then lent it to Fred and George to start their joke business (IIRC). So Ron's suggestion that "you can lend me some" wasn't that far off either.
– F1Krazy
Apr 20 '18 at 13:06
1
1
Me too, just thought it was worth pointing out
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 20 '18 at 13:09
Me too, just thought it was worth pointing out
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 20 '18 at 13:09
1
1
@MishaR, so far, that's still a 12:1 success ratio. Anything better than 1:1 or so is unlikely to be a coincidence, so we'd need at least another 11 counter-examples to make the premise look significantly less likely.
– Harry Johnston
Apr 20 '18 at 22:40
@MishaR, so far, that's still a 12:1 success ratio. Anything better than 1:1 or so is unlikely to be a coincidence, so we'd need at least another 11 counter-examples to make the premise look significantly less likely.
– Harry Johnston
Apr 20 '18 at 22:40
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From the examples you show plus those in the following posts.
Quora
Book 2
- (About why Riddle received the award for special services to the school): "Maybe he got thirty O.W.L.s or saved a teacher from the giant squid. Maybe he murdered Myrtle” - Riddle truly murdered her and in a roundabout way truly received price for it
Book 4
- To Harry when doing homework for Trelawney: “Why don't you get stabbed in the back by someone you thought was a friend?" - Harry is truly later betrayed by spoiler alert Ron both in books 4 and 7.
- When discussing Crouch Sr. disappearance in the Forbidden Forest and Snape’s involvement in it: "Not unless he can turn himself into a bat or something," said Harry…"Wouldn't put it past him," Ron muttered. - Snape gains ability to fly in book 7 while using a bat-like wings.
The Things
- He Offhandedly Predicted Harry Would Win The Triwizard Tournament
- When Ron Knew Hermione Confunded Cormac McLaggen
- Ron Predicted A Crouch Attacking Viktor Krum
- He Predicted Moaning Myrtle's Friendship With Draco
- He Called The Fight Between Him and Harry During The First Task
- He Predicted His Own Betrayal Over The Horcrux Locket
- He Predicted That Voldemort Would Be Connected To A Book
- He Foresaw Percy Leaving The Weasley Home
- He Knew Gilderoy Lockhart Was A Mess Before Anyone Else
Some of these could be explained away by him just making educated guesses at the time or just throwing out a lot of ideas. However, I think the evidence does lean towards him having a natural talent at predicting the future.
It is worth pointing out that Ron does fail Divination in hie O.W.L.S and whilst this doesn't disprove his natural ability it does shed some doubt on the possibility.
He looked round. Hermione had her back to him and her head bent, but Ron was looking delighted.
‘Only failed Divination and History of Magic, and who cares about them?' he said happily to Harry. ‘Here – swap –'
The Half-Blood Prince
However, this again could just be because he doesn't care about it and didn't really put much effort into it.
answered Apr 20 '18 at 13:18
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Or because the teacher was (by and large) a fraud?
– Liath
Apr 20 '18 at 13:24
2
Well reasoned...Can you prove a false positive, though? I mean, has Ron predicted anything that turned out to be false?
– Simpleton
Apr 20 '18 at 17:24
4
I think that we should also keep in mind that, in writing, foreshadowing is a thing. So while it may possible be that Ron has special powers (I did hear that the HP universe has some magic in it), I think we should be careful. Fiction in general tends to have a lot of prophecy in it.
– Misha R
Apr 20 '18 at 17:43
6
@MishaR - I'd agree in principle, and fandom likes fantheories, but that's a lotta examples. If the writer hands one character the foreshadowing stick and forgets to move it around, it's just easier to call him the prophet and move on.
– Radhil
Apr 20 '18 at 20:14
1
@Radhill Yeah, and I don't think I necessarily disagree. But I had the thought too - I wonder if Ron is the only one like that, and if we'd find some similar connections if we examine the book's other characters. Let's also keep in mind the narrative device of the fool who says profound or prophetic things. Since Ron does fit some of the parameters of the fool, it could still be that he is prophetic for purely literary reasons.
– Misha R
Apr 20 '18 at 23:07
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Additionally, in the 4th book, Harry Potter and the goblet of fire, there is a side plot of Daily Prophet news reporter and gossiper, Reta Skeeter. Harry, Ron and Hermione are discussing how she could be getting scoops from conversations for which she was not present. Harry, being brought up as a Muggle, mentions that maybe it involves “bugging” referring to hidden microphones. Ron, However, takes it literally, thinking that Harry was suggesting that it had something to do with bugs, but he is corrected by Hermione who also tells them about any electronics not working at Hogwarts. At the end of the book we find out that Reta Skeeter is an enimagus that can literally turn into a beetle to get direct quotes right under ppl’s noses. Thus, Ron’s seemingly stupid comment about bugs turned out to be correct in that she literally was a bug
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From the examples you show plus those in the following posts.
Quora
Book 2
- (About why Riddle received the award for special services to the school): "Maybe he got thirty O.W.L.s or saved a teacher from the giant squid. Maybe he murdered Myrtle” - Riddle truly murdered her and in a roundabout way truly received price for it
Book 4
- To Harry when doing homework for Trelawney: “Why don't you get stabbed in the back by someone you thought was a friend?" - Harry is truly later betrayed by spoiler alert Ron both in books 4 and 7.
- When discussing Crouch Sr. disappearance in the Forbidden Forest and Snape’s involvement in it: "Not unless he can turn himself into a bat or something," said Harry…"Wouldn't put it past him," Ron muttered. - Snape gains ability to fly in book 7 while using a bat-like wings.
The Things
- He Offhandedly Predicted Harry Would Win The Triwizard Tournament
- When Ron Knew Hermione Confunded Cormac McLaggen
- Ron Predicted A Crouch Attacking Viktor Krum
- He Predicted Moaning Myrtle's Friendship With Draco
- He Called The Fight Between Him and Harry During The First Task
- He Predicted His Own Betrayal Over The Horcrux Locket
- He Predicted That Voldemort Would Be Connected To A Book
- He Foresaw Percy Leaving The Weasley Home
- He Knew Gilderoy Lockhart Was A Mess Before Anyone Else
Some of these could be explained away by him just making educated guesses at the time or just throwing out a lot of ideas. However, I think the evidence does lean towards him having a natural talent at predicting the future.
It is worth pointing out that Ron does fail Divination in hie O.W.L.S and whilst this doesn't disprove his natural ability it does shed some doubt on the possibility.
He looked round. Hermione had her back to him and her head bent, but Ron was looking delighted.
‘Only failed Divination and History of Magic, and who cares about them?' he said happily to Harry. ‘Here – swap –'
The Half-Blood Prince
However, this again could just be because he doesn't care about it and didn't really put much effort into it.
answered Apr 20 '18 at 13:18
TheLethalCarrotTheLethalCarrot
46.7k17246295
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Or because the teacher was (by and large) a fraud?
– Liath
Apr 20 '18 at 13:24
2
Well reasoned...Can you prove a false positive, though? I mean, has Ron predicted anything that turned out to be false?
– Simpleton
Apr 20 '18 at 17:24
4
I think that we should also keep in mind that, in writing, foreshadowing is a thing. So while it may possible be that Ron has special powers (I did hear that the HP universe has some magic in it), I think we should be careful. Fiction in general tends to have a lot of prophecy in it.
– Misha R
Apr 20 '18 at 17:43
6
@MishaR - I'd agree in principle, and fandom likes fantheories, but that's a lotta examples. If the writer hands one character the foreshadowing stick and forgets to move it around, it's just easier to call him the prophet and move on.
– Radhil
Apr 20 '18 at 20:14
1
@Radhill Yeah, and I don't think I necessarily disagree. But I had the thought too - I wonder if Ron is the only one like that, and if we'd find some similar connections if we examine the book's other characters. Let's also keep in mind the narrative device of the fool who says profound or prophetic things. Since Ron does fit some of the parameters of the fool, it could still be that he is prophetic for purely literary reasons.
– Misha R
Apr 20 '18 at 23:07
|
show 1 more comment
From the examples you show plus those in the following posts.
Quora
Book 2
- (About why Riddle received the award for special services to the school): "Maybe he got thirty O.W.L.s or saved a teacher from the giant squid. Maybe he murdered Myrtle” - Riddle truly murdered her and in a roundabout way truly received price for it
Book 4
- To Harry when doing homework for Trelawney: “Why don't you get stabbed in the back by someone you thought was a friend?" - Harry is truly later betrayed by spoiler alert Ron both in books 4 and 7.
- When discussing Crouch Sr. disappearance in the Forbidden Forest and Snape’s involvement in it: "Not unless he can turn himself into a bat or something," said Harry…"Wouldn't put it past him," Ron muttered. - Snape gains ability to fly in book 7 while using a bat-like wings.
The Things
- He Offhandedly Predicted Harry Would Win The Triwizard Tournament
- When Ron Knew Hermione Confunded Cormac McLaggen
- Ron Predicted A Crouch Attacking Viktor Krum
- He Predicted Moaning Myrtle's Friendship With Draco
- He Called The Fight Between Him and Harry During The First Task
- He Predicted His Own Betrayal Over The Horcrux Locket
- He Predicted That Voldemort Would Be Connected To A Book
- He Foresaw Percy Leaving The Weasley Home
- He Knew Gilderoy Lockhart Was A Mess Before Anyone Else
Some of these could be explained away by him just making educated guesses at the time or just throwing out a lot of ideas. However, I think the evidence does lean towards him having a natural talent at predicting the future.
It is worth pointing out that Ron does fail Divination in hie O.W.L.S and whilst this doesn't disprove his natural ability it does shed some doubt on the possibility.
He looked round. Hermione had her back to him and her head bent, but Ron was looking delighted.
‘Only failed Divination and History of Magic, and who cares about them?' he said happily to Harry. ‘Here – swap –'
The Half-Blood Prince
However, this again could just be because he doesn't care about it and didn't really put much effort into it.
answered Apr 20 '18 at 13:18
TheLethalCarrotTheLethalCarrot
46.7k17246295
3
Or because the teacher was (by and large) a fraud?
– Liath
Apr 20 '18 at 13:24
2
Well reasoned...Can you prove a false positive, though? I mean, has Ron predicted anything that turned out to be false?
– Simpleton
Apr 20 '18 at 17:24
4
I think that we should also keep in mind that, in writing, foreshadowing is a thing. So while it may possible be that Ron has special powers (I did hear that the HP universe has some magic in it), I think we should be careful. Fiction in general tends to have a lot of prophecy in it.
– Misha R
Apr 20 '18 at 17:43
6
@MishaR - I'd agree in principle, and fandom likes fantheories, but that's a lotta examples. If the writer hands one character the foreshadowing stick and forgets to move it around, it's just easier to call him the prophet and move on.
– Radhil
Apr 20 '18 at 20:14
1
@Radhill Yeah, and I don't think I necessarily disagree. But I had the thought too - I wonder if Ron is the only one like that, and if we'd find some similar connections if we examine the book's other characters. Let's also keep in mind the narrative device of the fool who says profound or prophetic things. Since Ron does fit some of the parameters of the fool, it could still be that he is prophetic for purely literary reasons.
– Misha R
Apr 20 '18 at 23:07
|
show 1 more comment
From the examples you show plus those in the following posts.
Quora
Book 2
- (About why Riddle received the award for special services to the school): "Maybe he got thirty O.W.L.s or saved a teacher from the giant squid. Maybe he murdered Myrtle” - Riddle truly murdered her and in a roundabout way truly received price for it
Book 4
- To Harry when doing homework for Trelawney: “Why don't you get stabbed in the back by someone you thought was a friend?" - Harry is truly later betrayed by spoiler alert Ron both in books 4 and 7.
- When discussing Crouch Sr. disappearance in the Forbidden Forest and Snape’s involvement in it: "Not unless he can turn himself into a bat or something," said Harry…"Wouldn't put it past him," Ron muttered. - Snape gains ability to fly in book 7 while using a bat-like wings.
The Things
- He Offhandedly Predicted Harry Would Win The Triwizard Tournament
- When Ron Knew Hermione Confunded Cormac McLaggen
- Ron Predicted A Crouch Attacking Viktor Krum
- He Predicted Moaning Myrtle's Friendship With Draco
- He Called The Fight Between Him and Harry During The First Task
- He Predicted His Own Betrayal Over The Horcrux Locket
- He Predicted That Voldemort Would Be Connected To A Book
- He Foresaw Percy Leaving The Weasley Home
- He Knew Gilderoy Lockhart Was A Mess Before Anyone Else
Some of these could be explained away by him just making educated guesses at the time or just throwing out a lot of ideas. However, I think the evidence does lean towards him having a natural talent at predicting the future.
It is worth pointing out that Ron does fail Divination in hie O.W.L.S and whilst this doesn't disprove his natural ability it does shed some doubt on the possibility.
He looked round. Hermione had her back to him and her head bent, but Ron was looking delighted.
‘Only failed Divination and History of Magic, and who cares about them?' he said happily to Harry. ‘Here – swap –'
The Half-Blood Prince
However, this again could just be because he doesn't care about it and didn't really put much effort into it.
answered Apr 20 '18 at 13:18
TheLethalCarrotTheLethalCarrot
46.7k17246295
From the examples you show plus those in the following posts.
Quora
Book 2
- (About why Riddle received the award for special services to the school): "Maybe he got thirty O.W.L.s or saved a teacher from the giant squid. Maybe he murdered Myrtle” - Riddle truly murdered her and in a roundabout way truly received price for it
Book 4
- To Harry when doing homework for Trelawney: “Why don't you get stabbed in the back by someone you thought was a friend?" - Harry is truly later betrayed by spoiler alert Ron both in books 4 and 7.
- When discussing Crouch Sr. disappearance in the Forbidden Forest and Snape’s involvement in it: "Not unless he can turn himself into a bat or something," said Harry…"Wouldn't put it past him," Ron muttered. - Snape gains ability to fly in book 7 while using a bat-like wings.
The Things
- He Offhandedly Predicted Harry Would Win The Triwizard Tournament
- When Ron Knew Hermione Confunded Cormac McLaggen
- Ron Predicted A Crouch Attacking Viktor Krum
- He Predicted Moaning Myrtle's Friendship With Draco
- He Called The Fight Between Him and Harry During The First Task
- He Predicted His Own Betrayal Over The Horcrux Locket
- He Predicted That Voldemort Would Be Connected To A Book
- He Foresaw Percy Leaving The Weasley Home
- He Knew Gilderoy Lockhart Was A Mess Before Anyone Else
Some of these could be explained away by him just making educated guesses at the time or just throwing out a lot of ideas. However, I think the evidence does lean towards him having a natural talent at predicting the future.
It is worth pointing out that Ron does fail Divination in hie O.W.L.S and whilst this doesn't disprove his natural ability it does shed some doubt on the possibility.
He looked round. Hermione had her back to him and her head bent, but Ron was looking delighted.
‘Only failed Divination and History of Magic, and who cares about them?' he said happily to Harry. ‘Here – swap –'
The Half-Blood Prince
However, this again could just be because he doesn't care about it and didn't really put much effort into it.
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Or because the teacher was (by and large) a fraud?
– Liath
Apr 20 '18 at 13:24
2
Well reasoned...Can you prove a false positive, though? I mean, has Ron predicted anything that turned out to be false?
– Simpleton
Apr 20 '18 at 17:24
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I think that we should also keep in mind that, in writing, foreshadowing is a thing. So while it may possible be that Ron has special powers (I did hear that the HP universe has some magic in it), I think we should be careful. Fiction in general tends to have a lot of prophecy in it.
– Misha R
Apr 20 '18 at 17:43
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@MishaR - I'd agree in principle, and fandom likes fantheories, but that's a lotta examples. If the writer hands one character the foreshadowing stick and forgets to move it around, it's just easier to call him the prophet and move on.
– Radhil
Apr 20 '18 at 20:14
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@Radhill Yeah, and I don't think I necessarily disagree. But I had the thought too - I wonder if Ron is the only one like that, and if we'd find some similar connections if we examine the book's other characters. Let's also keep in mind the narrative device of the fool who says profound or prophetic things. Since Ron does fit some of the parameters of the fool, it could still be that he is prophetic for purely literary reasons.
– Misha R
Apr 20 '18 at 23:07
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Or because the teacher was (by and large) a fraud?
– Liath
Apr 20 '18 at 13:24
2
Well reasoned...Can you prove a false positive, though? I mean, has Ron predicted anything that turned out to be false?
– Simpleton
Apr 20 '18 at 17:24
4
I think that we should also keep in mind that, in writing, foreshadowing is a thing. So while it may possible be that Ron has special powers (I did hear that the HP universe has some magic in it), I think we should be careful. Fiction in general tends to have a lot of prophecy in it.
– Misha R
Apr 20 '18 at 17:43
6
@MishaR - I'd agree in principle, and fandom likes fantheories, but that's a lotta examples. If the writer hands one character the foreshadowing stick and forgets to move it around, it's just easier to call him the prophet and move on.
– Radhil
Apr 20 '18 at 20:14
1
@Radhill Yeah, and I don't think I necessarily disagree. But I had the thought too - I wonder if Ron is the only one like that, and if we'd find some similar connections if we examine the book's other characters. Let's also keep in mind the narrative device of the fool who says profound or prophetic things. Since Ron does fit some of the parameters of the fool, it could still be that he is prophetic for purely literary reasons.
– Misha R
Apr 20 '18 at 23:07
3
3
Or because the teacher was (by and large) a fraud?
– Liath
Apr 20 '18 at 13:24
Or because the teacher was (by and large) a fraud?
– Liath
Apr 20 '18 at 13:24
2
2
Well reasoned...Can you prove a false positive, though? I mean, has Ron predicted anything that turned out to be false?
– Simpleton
Apr 20 '18 at 17:24
Well reasoned...Can you prove a false positive, though? I mean, has Ron predicted anything that turned out to be false?
– Simpleton
Apr 20 '18 at 17:24
4
4
I think that we should also keep in mind that, in writing, foreshadowing is a thing. So while it may possible be that Ron has special powers (I did hear that the HP universe has some magic in it), I think we should be careful. Fiction in general tends to have a lot of prophecy in it.
– Misha R
Apr 20 '18 at 17:43
I think that we should also keep in mind that, in writing, foreshadowing is a thing. So while it may possible be that Ron has special powers (I did hear that the HP universe has some magic in it), I think we should be careful. Fiction in general tends to have a lot of prophecy in it.
– Misha R
Apr 20 '18 at 17:43
6
6
@MishaR - I'd agree in principle, and fandom likes fantheories, but that's a lotta examples. If the writer hands one character the foreshadowing stick and forgets to move it around, it's just easier to call him the prophet and move on.
– Radhil
Apr 20 '18 at 20:14
@MishaR - I'd agree in principle, and fandom likes fantheories, but that's a lotta examples. If the writer hands one character the foreshadowing stick and forgets to move it around, it's just easier to call him the prophet and move on.
– Radhil
Apr 20 '18 at 20:14
1
1
@Radhill Yeah, and I don't think I necessarily disagree. But I had the thought too - I wonder if Ron is the only one like that, and if we'd find some similar connections if we examine the book's other characters. Let's also keep in mind the narrative device of the fool who says profound or prophetic things. Since Ron does fit some of the parameters of the fool, it could still be that he is prophetic for purely literary reasons.
– Misha R
Apr 20 '18 at 23:07
@Radhill Yeah, and I don't think I necessarily disagree. But I had the thought too - I wonder if Ron is the only one like that, and if we'd find some similar connections if we examine the book's other characters. Let's also keep in mind the narrative device of the fool who says profound or prophetic things. Since Ron does fit some of the parameters of the fool, it could still be that he is prophetic for purely literary reasons.
– Misha R
Apr 20 '18 at 23:07
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Additionally, in the 4th book, Harry Potter and the goblet of fire, there is a side plot of Daily Prophet news reporter and gossiper, Reta Skeeter. Harry, Ron and Hermione are discussing how she could be getting scoops from conversations for which she was not present. Harry, being brought up as a Muggle, mentions that maybe it involves “bugging” referring to hidden microphones. Ron, However, takes it literally, thinking that Harry was suggesting that it had something to do with bugs, but he is corrected by Hermione who also tells them about any electronics not working at Hogwarts. At the end of the book we find out that Reta Skeeter is an enimagus that can literally turn into a beetle to get direct quotes right under ppl’s noses. Thus, Ron’s seemingly stupid comment about bugs turned out to be correct in that she literally was a bug
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Additionally, in the 4th book, Harry Potter and the goblet of fire, there is a side plot of Daily Prophet news reporter and gossiper, Reta Skeeter. Harry, Ron and Hermione are discussing how she could be getting scoops from conversations for which she was not present. Harry, being brought up as a Muggle, mentions that maybe it involves “bugging” referring to hidden microphones. Ron, However, takes it literally, thinking that Harry was suggesting that it had something to do with bugs, but he is corrected by Hermione who also tells them about any electronics not working at Hogwarts. At the end of the book we find out that Reta Skeeter is an enimagus that can literally turn into a beetle to get direct quotes right under ppl’s noses. Thus, Ron’s seemingly stupid comment about bugs turned out to be correct in that she literally was a bug
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Additionally, in the 4th book, Harry Potter and the goblet of fire, there is a side plot of Daily Prophet news reporter and gossiper, Reta Skeeter. Harry, Ron and Hermione are discussing how she could be getting scoops from conversations for which she was not present. Harry, being brought up as a Muggle, mentions that maybe it involves “bugging” referring to hidden microphones. Ron, However, takes it literally, thinking that Harry was suggesting that it had something to do with bugs, but he is corrected by Hermione who also tells them about any electronics not working at Hogwarts. At the end of the book we find out that Reta Skeeter is an enimagus that can literally turn into a beetle to get direct quotes right under ppl’s noses. Thus, Ron’s seemingly stupid comment about bugs turned out to be correct in that she literally was a bug
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Additionally, in the 4th book, Harry Potter and the goblet of fire, there is a side plot of Daily Prophet news reporter and gossiper, Reta Skeeter. Harry, Ron and Hermione are discussing how she could be getting scoops from conversations for which she was not present. Harry, being brought up as a Muggle, mentions that maybe it involves “bugging” referring to hidden microphones. Ron, However, takes it literally, thinking that Harry was suggesting that it had something to do with bugs, but he is corrected by Hermione who also tells them about any electronics not working at Hogwarts. At the end of the book we find out that Reta Skeeter is an enimagus that can literally turn into a beetle to get direct quotes right under ppl’s noses. Thus, Ron’s seemingly stupid comment about bugs turned out to be correct in that she literally was a bug
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This Quora post lists a couple more times when Ron seemingly predicted the future.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 20 '18 at 13:04
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I'd just like to point out though that this could just be bias because you don't take note of the times when he said something about the future that didn't come true.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 20 '18 at 13:05
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Not only did Harry win all that money in the Triwizard Tournament, he then lent it to Fred and George to start their joke business (IIRC). So Ron's suggestion that "you can lend me some" wasn't that far off either.
– F1Krazy
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Me too, just thought it was worth pointing out
– TheLethalCarrot
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@MishaR, so far, that's still a 12:1 success ratio. Anything better than 1:1 or so is unlikely to be a coincidence, so we'd need at least another 11 counter-examples to make the premise look significantly less likely.
– Harry Johnston
Apr 20 '18 at 22:40