How to calculate mod of number with big exponent












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5^{133} mod 8.
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I have noticed that $5^n mod 8 = 5$ when $n$ is uneven and 1 otherwise, which would lead me to say that $5^{133} mod 8 = 5$ But I don't know how to prove this. How can I prove that this is the case (or find another solution if it is not)?










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    Hint: $bmod 8!: color{#c00}{5^{large 2}equiv 1},Rightarrow, 5^{large 2n}equiv (color{#c00}{5^{large 2}})^{large n}equiv color{#c00}1^{large n}equiv 1 $
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    What does the triple equal sign mean?
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    – Sandi
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    25 leaves a remainder of 1 when divided by 8 so it means they are "equivalent" under mod 8
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    – Eleven-Eleven
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    @Sandi this is the common way to write congruences.
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    – Mark
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$begingroup$


I want to find



$$
5^{133} mod 8.
$$

I have noticed that $5^n mod 8 = 5$ when $n$ is uneven and 1 otherwise, which would lead me to say that $5^{133} mod 8 = 5$ But I don't know how to prove this. How can I prove that this is the case (or find another solution if it is not)?










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    Hint: $bmod 8!: color{#c00}{5^{large 2}equiv 1},Rightarrow, 5^{large 2n}equiv (color{#c00}{5^{large 2}})^{large n}equiv color{#c00}1^{large n}equiv 1 $
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    – Bill Dubuque
    2 hours ago












  • $begingroup$
    What does the triple equal sign mean?
    $endgroup$
    – Sandi
    2 hours ago










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    25 leaves a remainder of 1 when divided by 8 so it means they are "equivalent" under mod 8
    $endgroup$
    – Eleven-Eleven
    2 hours ago












  • $begingroup$
    @Sandi this is the common way to write congruences.
    $endgroup$
    – Mark
    2 hours ago














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$begingroup$


I want to find



$$
5^{133} mod 8.
$$

I have noticed that $5^n mod 8 = 5$ when $n$ is uneven and 1 otherwise, which would lead me to say that $5^{133} mod 8 = 5$ But I don't know how to prove this. How can I prove that this is the case (or find another solution if it is not)?










share|cite|improve this question











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I want to find



$$
5^{133} mod 8.
$$

I have noticed that $5^n mod 8 = 5$ when $n$ is uneven and 1 otherwise, which would lead me to say that $5^{133} mod 8 = 5$ But I don't know how to prove this. How can I prove that this is the case (or find another solution if it is not)?







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    $begingroup$
    Hint: $bmod 8!: color{#c00}{5^{large 2}equiv 1},Rightarrow, 5^{large 2n}equiv (color{#c00}{5^{large 2}})^{large n}equiv color{#c00}1^{large n}equiv 1 $
    $endgroup$
    – Bill Dubuque
    2 hours ago












  • $begingroup$
    What does the triple equal sign mean?
    $endgroup$
    – Sandi
    2 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    25 leaves a remainder of 1 when divided by 8 so it means they are "equivalent" under mod 8
    $endgroup$
    – Eleven-Eleven
    2 hours ago












  • $begingroup$
    @Sandi this is the common way to write congruences.
    $endgroup$
    – Mark
    2 hours ago














  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Hint: $bmod 8!: color{#c00}{5^{large 2}equiv 1},Rightarrow, 5^{large 2n}equiv (color{#c00}{5^{large 2}})^{large n}equiv color{#c00}1^{large n}equiv 1 $
    $endgroup$
    – Bill Dubuque
    2 hours ago












  • $begingroup$
    What does the triple equal sign mean?
    $endgroup$
    – Sandi
    2 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    25 leaves a remainder of 1 when divided by 8 so it means they are "equivalent" under mod 8
    $endgroup$
    – Eleven-Eleven
    2 hours ago












  • $begingroup$
    @Sandi this is the common way to write congruences.
    $endgroup$
    – Mark
    2 hours ago








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$begingroup$
Hint: $bmod 8!: color{#c00}{5^{large 2}equiv 1},Rightarrow, 5^{large 2n}equiv (color{#c00}{5^{large 2}})^{large n}equiv color{#c00}1^{large n}equiv 1 $
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
2 hours ago






$begingroup$
Hint: $bmod 8!: color{#c00}{5^{large 2}equiv 1},Rightarrow, 5^{large 2n}equiv (color{#c00}{5^{large 2}})^{large n}equiv color{#c00}1^{large n}equiv 1 $
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
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What does the triple equal sign mean?
$endgroup$
– Sandi
2 hours ago




$begingroup$
What does the triple equal sign mean?
$endgroup$
– Sandi
2 hours ago












$begingroup$
25 leaves a remainder of 1 when divided by 8 so it means they are "equivalent" under mod 8
$endgroup$
– Eleven-Eleven
2 hours ago






$begingroup$
25 leaves a remainder of 1 when divided by 8 so it means they are "equivalent" under mod 8
$endgroup$
– Eleven-Eleven
2 hours ago














$begingroup$
@Sandi this is the common way to write congruences.
$endgroup$
– Mark
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$begingroup$
@Sandi this is the common way to write congruences.
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First of all it is easy to see that $5^2equiv 1$ (mod $8$). We also know that $133=66times 2+1$. Hence



$5^{133}equiv 5^{2times 66+1}equiv 5times (5^2)^{66}equiv 5times 1^{66}equiv 5$ (mod $8$).






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    Should the first triple-equal sign on the second row not be a normal equal sign? And the second one too?
    $endgroup$
    – Sandi
    2 hours ago








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    $begingroup$
    Yes, you can also write regular equality there. But if two numbers are equal in $mathbb{Z}$ then they are also congruent mod $n$ for any $ninmathbb{N}$, and because we only care about congruence here I decided to write congruence from the beginning.
    $endgroup$
    – Mark
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    I don't understand how you do the step $5 times (5^2)^{66} equiv 5 times 1^{66} (mathrm{mod} 8)$. Could you clarify please?
    $endgroup$
    – Sandi
    2 hours ago








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    $5^2equiv 1$(mod $8$), hence $(5^2)^{66}equiv 1^{66}equiv 1$(mod $8$). That's it. It all follows from a basic theorem on modular arithmetic: that if $aequiv b$(mod $n$) and $cequiv d$(mod $n$) then $abequiv cd$(mod $n$). In other words multiplication mod $n$ is well defined. (same thing can we said about sum mod $n$)
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    – Mark
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    I found a similar thing in my book, but it said that $ac equiv bd (modn)$. Did you make a typo or is it a different theorem?
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    – Sandi
    1 hour ago



















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"Highbrow method":



If you undertake to learn any number theory , there is Euler's theorem: $$a^{varphi (n)}cong1pmod n$$, for $a$ relatively prime to $n$.



($varphi$ is Euler's totient function, and just returns the number of positive integers less than $n$ that are relatively prime to $n$.)



Now $varphi (8)=4$. Hence $5^4cong1pmod8.$



Use this to reduce the exponent: $133=4×33+1implies5^{133}=(5^4)^{33}cdot 5cong5pmod8$.






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    First of all it is easy to see that $5^2equiv 1$ (mod $8$). We also know that $133=66times 2+1$. Hence



    $5^{133}equiv 5^{2times 66+1}equiv 5times (5^2)^{66}equiv 5times 1^{66}equiv 5$ (mod $8$).






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    • $begingroup$
      Should the first triple-equal sign on the second row not be a normal equal sign? And the second one too?
      $endgroup$
      – Sandi
      2 hours ago








    • 1




      $begingroup$
      Yes, you can also write regular equality there. But if two numbers are equal in $mathbb{Z}$ then they are also congruent mod $n$ for any $ninmathbb{N}$, and because we only care about congruence here I decided to write congruence from the beginning.
      $endgroup$
      – Mark
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    • $begingroup$
      I don't understand how you do the step $5 times (5^2)^{66} equiv 5 times 1^{66} (mathrm{mod} 8)$. Could you clarify please?
      $endgroup$
      – Sandi
      2 hours ago








    • 1




      $begingroup$
      $5^2equiv 1$(mod $8$), hence $(5^2)^{66}equiv 1^{66}equiv 1$(mod $8$). That's it. It all follows from a basic theorem on modular arithmetic: that if $aequiv b$(mod $n$) and $cequiv d$(mod $n$) then $abequiv cd$(mod $n$). In other words multiplication mod $n$ is well defined. (same thing can we said about sum mod $n$)
      $endgroup$
      – Mark
      2 hours ago












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      I found a similar thing in my book, but it said that $ac equiv bd (modn)$. Did you make a typo or is it a different theorem?
      $endgroup$
      – Sandi
      1 hour ago
















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    First of all it is easy to see that $5^2equiv 1$ (mod $8$). We also know that $133=66times 2+1$. Hence



    $5^{133}equiv 5^{2times 66+1}equiv 5times (5^2)^{66}equiv 5times 1^{66}equiv 5$ (mod $8$).






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    • $begingroup$
      Should the first triple-equal sign on the second row not be a normal equal sign? And the second one too?
      $endgroup$
      – Sandi
      2 hours ago








    • 1




      $begingroup$
      Yes, you can also write regular equality there. But if two numbers are equal in $mathbb{Z}$ then they are also congruent mod $n$ for any $ninmathbb{N}$, and because we only care about congruence here I decided to write congruence from the beginning.
      $endgroup$
      – Mark
      2 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      I don't understand how you do the step $5 times (5^2)^{66} equiv 5 times 1^{66} (mathrm{mod} 8)$. Could you clarify please?
      $endgroup$
      – Sandi
      2 hours ago








    • 1




      $begingroup$
      $5^2equiv 1$(mod $8$), hence $(5^2)^{66}equiv 1^{66}equiv 1$(mod $8$). That's it. It all follows from a basic theorem on modular arithmetic: that if $aequiv b$(mod $n$) and $cequiv d$(mod $n$) then $abequiv cd$(mod $n$). In other words multiplication mod $n$ is well defined. (same thing can we said about sum mod $n$)
      $endgroup$
      – Mark
      2 hours ago












    • $begingroup$
      I found a similar thing in my book, but it said that $ac equiv bd (modn)$. Did you make a typo or is it a different theorem?
      $endgroup$
      – Sandi
      1 hour ago














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    $begingroup$

    First of all it is easy to see that $5^2equiv 1$ (mod $8$). We also know that $133=66times 2+1$. Hence



    $5^{133}equiv 5^{2times 66+1}equiv 5times (5^2)^{66}equiv 5times 1^{66}equiv 5$ (mod $8$).






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    First of all it is easy to see that $5^2equiv 1$ (mod $8$). We also know that $133=66times 2+1$. Hence



    $5^{133}equiv 5^{2times 66+1}equiv 5times (5^2)^{66}equiv 5times 1^{66}equiv 5$ (mod $8$).







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    • $begingroup$
      Should the first triple-equal sign on the second row not be a normal equal sign? And the second one too?
      $endgroup$
      – Sandi
      2 hours ago








    • 1




      $begingroup$
      Yes, you can also write regular equality there. But if two numbers are equal in $mathbb{Z}$ then they are also congruent mod $n$ for any $ninmathbb{N}$, and because we only care about congruence here I decided to write congruence from the beginning.
      $endgroup$
      – Mark
      2 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      I don't understand how you do the step $5 times (5^2)^{66} equiv 5 times 1^{66} (mathrm{mod} 8)$. Could you clarify please?
      $endgroup$
      – Sandi
      2 hours ago








    • 1




      $begingroup$
      $5^2equiv 1$(mod $8$), hence $(5^2)^{66}equiv 1^{66}equiv 1$(mod $8$). That's it. It all follows from a basic theorem on modular arithmetic: that if $aequiv b$(mod $n$) and $cequiv d$(mod $n$) then $abequiv cd$(mod $n$). In other words multiplication mod $n$ is well defined. (same thing can we said about sum mod $n$)
      $endgroup$
      – Mark
      2 hours ago












    • $begingroup$
      I found a similar thing in my book, but it said that $ac equiv bd (modn)$. Did you make a typo or is it a different theorem?
      $endgroup$
      – Sandi
      1 hour ago


















    • $begingroup$
      Should the first triple-equal sign on the second row not be a normal equal sign? And the second one too?
      $endgroup$
      – Sandi
      2 hours ago








    • 1




      $begingroup$
      Yes, you can also write regular equality there. But if two numbers are equal in $mathbb{Z}$ then they are also congruent mod $n$ for any $ninmathbb{N}$, and because we only care about congruence here I decided to write congruence from the beginning.
      $endgroup$
      – Mark
      2 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      I don't understand how you do the step $5 times (5^2)^{66} equiv 5 times 1^{66} (mathrm{mod} 8)$. Could you clarify please?
      $endgroup$
      – Sandi
      2 hours ago








    • 1




      $begingroup$
      $5^2equiv 1$(mod $8$), hence $(5^2)^{66}equiv 1^{66}equiv 1$(mod $8$). That's it. It all follows from a basic theorem on modular arithmetic: that if $aequiv b$(mod $n$) and $cequiv d$(mod $n$) then $abequiv cd$(mod $n$). In other words multiplication mod $n$ is well defined. (same thing can we said about sum mod $n$)
      $endgroup$
      – Mark
      2 hours ago












    • $begingroup$
      I found a similar thing in my book, but it said that $ac equiv bd (modn)$. Did you make a typo or is it a different theorem?
      $endgroup$
      – Sandi
      1 hour ago
















    $begingroup$
    Should the first triple-equal sign on the second row not be a normal equal sign? And the second one too?
    $endgroup$
    – Sandi
    2 hours ago






    $begingroup$
    Should the first triple-equal sign on the second row not be a normal equal sign? And the second one too?
    $endgroup$
    – Sandi
    2 hours ago






    1




    1




    $begingroup$
    Yes, you can also write regular equality there. But if two numbers are equal in $mathbb{Z}$ then they are also congruent mod $n$ for any $ninmathbb{N}$, and because we only care about congruence here I decided to write congruence from the beginning.
    $endgroup$
    – Mark
    2 hours ago




    $begingroup$
    Yes, you can also write regular equality there. But if two numbers are equal in $mathbb{Z}$ then they are also congruent mod $n$ for any $ninmathbb{N}$, and because we only care about congruence here I decided to write congruence from the beginning.
    $endgroup$
    – Mark
    2 hours ago












    $begingroup$
    I don't understand how you do the step $5 times (5^2)^{66} equiv 5 times 1^{66} (mathrm{mod} 8)$. Could you clarify please?
    $endgroup$
    – Sandi
    2 hours ago






    $begingroup$
    I don't understand how you do the step $5 times (5^2)^{66} equiv 5 times 1^{66} (mathrm{mod} 8)$. Could you clarify please?
    $endgroup$
    – Sandi
    2 hours ago






    1




    1




    $begingroup$
    $5^2equiv 1$(mod $8$), hence $(5^2)^{66}equiv 1^{66}equiv 1$(mod $8$). That's it. It all follows from a basic theorem on modular arithmetic: that if $aequiv b$(mod $n$) and $cequiv d$(mod $n$) then $abequiv cd$(mod $n$). In other words multiplication mod $n$ is well defined. (same thing can we said about sum mod $n$)
    $endgroup$
    – Mark
    2 hours ago






    $begingroup$
    $5^2equiv 1$(mod $8$), hence $(5^2)^{66}equiv 1^{66}equiv 1$(mod $8$). That's it. It all follows from a basic theorem on modular arithmetic: that if $aequiv b$(mod $n$) and $cequiv d$(mod $n$) then $abequiv cd$(mod $n$). In other words multiplication mod $n$ is well defined. (same thing can we said about sum mod $n$)
    $endgroup$
    – Mark
    2 hours ago














    $begingroup$
    I found a similar thing in my book, but it said that $ac equiv bd (modn)$. Did you make a typo or is it a different theorem?
    $endgroup$
    – Sandi
    1 hour ago




    $begingroup$
    I found a similar thing in my book, but it said that $ac equiv bd (modn)$. Did you make a typo or is it a different theorem?
    $endgroup$
    – Sandi
    1 hour ago











    0












    $begingroup$

    "Highbrow method":



    If you undertake to learn any number theory , there is Euler's theorem: $$a^{varphi (n)}cong1pmod n$$, for $a$ relatively prime to $n$.



    ($varphi$ is Euler's totient function, and just returns the number of positive integers less than $n$ that are relatively prime to $n$.)



    Now $varphi (8)=4$. Hence $5^4cong1pmod8.$



    Use this to reduce the exponent: $133=4×33+1implies5^{133}=(5^4)^{33}cdot 5cong5pmod8$.






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      0












      $begingroup$

      "Highbrow method":



      If you undertake to learn any number theory , there is Euler's theorem: $$a^{varphi (n)}cong1pmod n$$, for $a$ relatively prime to $n$.



      ($varphi$ is Euler's totient function, and just returns the number of positive integers less than $n$ that are relatively prime to $n$.)



      Now $varphi (8)=4$. Hence $5^4cong1pmod8.$



      Use this to reduce the exponent: $133=4×33+1implies5^{133}=(5^4)^{33}cdot 5cong5pmod8$.






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        "Highbrow method":



        If you undertake to learn any number theory , there is Euler's theorem: $$a^{varphi (n)}cong1pmod n$$, for $a$ relatively prime to $n$.



        ($varphi$ is Euler's totient function, and just returns the number of positive integers less than $n$ that are relatively prime to $n$.)



        Now $varphi (8)=4$. Hence $5^4cong1pmod8.$



        Use this to reduce the exponent: $133=4×33+1implies5^{133}=(5^4)^{33}cdot 5cong5pmod8$.






        share|cite|improve this answer











        $endgroup$



        "Highbrow method":



        If you undertake to learn any number theory , there is Euler's theorem: $$a^{varphi (n)}cong1pmod n$$, for $a$ relatively prime to $n$.



        ($varphi$ is Euler's totient function, and just returns the number of positive integers less than $n$ that are relatively prime to $n$.)



        Now $varphi (8)=4$. Hence $5^4cong1pmod8.$



        Use this to reduce the exponent: $133=4×33+1implies5^{133}=(5^4)^{33}cdot 5cong5pmod8$.







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