A road system with no traffic rules - what sort of vehicle is best?
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In Britopia there were the Leftists who believed motorists should drive on the left and the Rightists who believed they should drive on the Right. The vote split exactly down the middle and it was finally decided that there would be no rule at all.
In the end it was further decided that there would be no traffic rules of any kind: no right of way at junctions, no speed limits, no parking restrictions and so on.
Question
In this 21st century country what is the best vehicle to have. "Best" means the most likely to get you from A to B in the shortest time whilst remaining alive and healthy.
Bear in mind that other laws exist so you can't deliberately murder other motorists, by shooting them for example.
To those who are voting to close because the question is 'too broad', I'd like to point out that I'm simply asking for the most suitable mode of transport as defined by getting from A to B as quickly and safely as possible. I don't think that could be any clearer or better defined. In fact I'd claim that it is more clearly defined than the majority of the questions on this site. If I left out 'safely' or left out 'quickly' it would be a completely different question.
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In Britopia there were the Leftists who believed motorists should drive on the left and the Rightists who believed they should drive on the Right. The vote split exactly down the middle and it was finally decided that there would be no rule at all.
In the end it was further decided that there would be no traffic rules of any kind: no right of way at junctions, no speed limits, no parking restrictions and so on.
Question
In this 21st century country what is the best vehicle to have. "Best" means the most likely to get you from A to B in the shortest time whilst remaining alive and healthy.
Bear in mind that other laws exist so you can't deliberately murder other motorists, by shooting them for example.
To those who are voting to close because the question is 'too broad', I'd like to point out that I'm simply asking for the most suitable mode of transport as defined by getting from A to B as quickly and safely as possible. I don't think that could be any clearer or better defined. In fact I'd claim that it is more clearly defined than the majority of the questions on this site. If I left out 'safely' or left out 'quickly' it would be a completely different question.
law transportation vehicles
asked 3 hours ago
chasly from UKchasly from UK
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Vote exactly in the middle is practically impossible and in most law systems would mean that things stay the way they were. Situation you describe is utterly impossible, people are not that stupid.
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– Mołot
2 hours ago
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Don't twist what I said, please. As for Brexit - yes, they didn't figure out the deal, so they are still going to exit, nothing changes. Just like what I've said.
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– Mołot
2 hours ago
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Be nice, please.
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– a CVn♦
2 hours ago
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Clearly y'all have never watched any of the ten million "worlds worst traffic" videos on Youtube! Chasly is basically describing every day traffic in, for example, Cairo, except they do apparently drive mostly on opposite sides of the street. Forget about what is "impossible" and get along with answering the questions! (And what Brexit has to do with anything is beyond me...)
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– elemtilas
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The problem with something like this is that when there is a benefit in some kind of consensus to make society function well and the law is silent social norms fill the vacuum. Hell if anything laws are mostly a step up from social norms, they are just norms that have become so important to the population that the majority largely favour enforcing those norms with the threat of violence or other punishment from the state if necessary. There is no law saying what side of the escalator to stand on the London underground but being consistent is helpful thus social norms encourage compliance.
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– MttJocy
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In Britopia there were the Leftists who believed motorists should drive on the left and the Rightists who believed they should drive on the Right. The vote split exactly down the middle and it was finally decided that there would be no rule at all.
In the end it was further decided that there would be no traffic rules of any kind: no right of way at junctions, no speed limits, no parking restrictions and so on.
Question
In this 21st century country what is the best vehicle to have. "Best" means the most likely to get you from A to B in the shortest time whilst remaining alive and healthy.
Bear in mind that other laws exist so you can't deliberately murder other motorists, by shooting them for example.
To those who are voting to close because the question is 'too broad', I'd like to point out that I'm simply asking for the most suitable mode of transport as defined by getting from A to B as quickly and safely as possible. I don't think that could be any clearer or better defined. In fact I'd claim that it is more clearly defined than the majority of the questions on this site. If I left out 'safely' or left out 'quickly' it would be a completely different question.
law transportation vehicles
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chasly from UKchasly from UK
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In Britopia there were the Leftists who believed motorists should drive on the left and the Rightists who believed they should drive on the Right. The vote split exactly down the middle and it was finally decided that there would be no rule at all.
In the end it was further decided that there would be no traffic rules of any kind: no right of way at junctions, no speed limits, no parking restrictions and so on.
Question
In this 21st century country what is the best vehicle to have. "Best" means the most likely to get you from A to B in the shortest time whilst remaining alive and healthy.
Bear in mind that other laws exist so you can't deliberately murder other motorists, by shooting them for example.
To those who are voting to close because the question is 'too broad', I'd like to point out that I'm simply asking for the most suitable mode of transport as defined by getting from A to B as quickly and safely as possible. I don't think that could be any clearer or better defined. In fact I'd claim that it is more clearly defined than the majority of the questions on this site. If I left out 'safely' or left out 'quickly' it would be a completely different question.
law transportation vehicles
law transportation vehicles
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Vote exactly in the middle is practically impossible and in most law systems would mean that things stay the way they were. Situation you describe is utterly impossible, people are not that stupid.
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– Mołot
2 hours ago
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Don't twist what I said, please. As for Brexit - yes, they didn't figure out the deal, so they are still going to exit, nothing changes. Just like what I've said.
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– Mołot
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Be nice, please.
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– a CVn♦
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Clearly y'all have never watched any of the ten million "worlds worst traffic" videos on Youtube! Chasly is basically describing every day traffic in, for example, Cairo, except they do apparently drive mostly on opposite sides of the street. Forget about what is "impossible" and get along with answering the questions! (And what Brexit has to do with anything is beyond me...)
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– elemtilas
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The problem with something like this is that when there is a benefit in some kind of consensus to make society function well and the law is silent social norms fill the vacuum. Hell if anything laws are mostly a step up from social norms, they are just norms that have become so important to the population that the majority largely favour enforcing those norms with the threat of violence or other punishment from the state if necessary. There is no law saying what side of the escalator to stand on the London underground but being consistent is helpful thus social norms encourage compliance.
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– MttJocy
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Vote exactly in the middle is practically impossible and in most law systems would mean that things stay the way they were. Situation you describe is utterly impossible, people are not that stupid.
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– Mołot
2 hours ago
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Don't twist what I said, please. As for Brexit - yes, they didn't figure out the deal, so they are still going to exit, nothing changes. Just like what I've said.
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– Mołot
2 hours ago
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Be nice, please.
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– a CVn♦
2 hours ago
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Clearly y'all have never watched any of the ten million "worlds worst traffic" videos on Youtube! Chasly is basically describing every day traffic in, for example, Cairo, except they do apparently drive mostly on opposite sides of the street. Forget about what is "impossible" and get along with answering the questions! (And what Brexit has to do with anything is beyond me...)
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– elemtilas
2 hours ago
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The problem with something like this is that when there is a benefit in some kind of consensus to make society function well and the law is silent social norms fill the vacuum. Hell if anything laws are mostly a step up from social norms, they are just norms that have become so important to the population that the majority largely favour enforcing those norms with the threat of violence or other punishment from the state if necessary. There is no law saying what side of the escalator to stand on the London underground but being consistent is helpful thus social norms encourage compliance.
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– MttJocy
2 hours ago
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Vote exactly in the middle is practically impossible and in most law systems would mean that things stay the way they were. Situation you describe is utterly impossible, people are not that stupid.
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– Mołot
2 hours ago
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Vote exactly in the middle is practically impossible and in most law systems would mean that things stay the way they were. Situation you describe is utterly impossible, people are not that stupid.
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– Mołot
2 hours ago
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Don't twist what I said, please. As for Brexit - yes, they didn't figure out the deal, so they are still going to exit, nothing changes. Just like what I've said.
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– Mołot
2 hours ago
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Don't twist what I said, please. As for Brexit - yes, they didn't figure out the deal, so they are still going to exit, nothing changes. Just like what I've said.
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– Mołot
2 hours ago
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Be nice, please.
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– a CVn♦
2 hours ago
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Be nice, please.
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– a CVn♦
2 hours ago
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Clearly y'all have never watched any of the ten million "worlds worst traffic" videos on Youtube! Chasly is basically describing every day traffic in, for example, Cairo, except they do apparently drive mostly on opposite sides of the street. Forget about what is "impossible" and get along with answering the questions! (And what Brexit has to do with anything is beyond me...)
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– elemtilas
2 hours ago
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Clearly y'all have never watched any of the ten million "worlds worst traffic" videos on Youtube! Chasly is basically describing every day traffic in, for example, Cairo, except they do apparently drive mostly on opposite sides of the street. Forget about what is "impossible" and get along with answering the questions! (And what Brexit has to do with anything is beyond me...)
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– elemtilas
2 hours ago
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The problem with something like this is that when there is a benefit in some kind of consensus to make society function well and the law is silent social norms fill the vacuum. Hell if anything laws are mostly a step up from social norms, they are just norms that have become so important to the population that the majority largely favour enforcing those norms with the threat of violence or other punishment from the state if necessary. There is no law saying what side of the escalator to stand on the London underground but being consistent is helpful thus social norms encourage compliance.
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– MttJocy
2 hours ago
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The problem with something like this is that when there is a benefit in some kind of consensus to make society function well and the law is silent social norms fill the vacuum. Hell if anything laws are mostly a step up from social norms, they are just norms that have become so important to the population that the majority largely favour enforcing those norms with the threat of violence or other punishment from the state if necessary. There is no law saying what side of the escalator to stand on the London underground but being consistent is helpful thus social norms encourage compliance.
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– MttJocy
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Horses
They are smart enough to not crash themselves on others, even if their riders are completely drunk.
answered 2 hours ago
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So speaks a person who has never ridden a polo pony
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– Separatrix
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@Separatrix polo ponies are trained to do so when made to by players.
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– Mołot
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Only if all drivers are using the same transportation type...since there's no regulation, this seems unlikely. Horses are fantastic, but will not help you much if someone else drives a semi into you.
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– user3067860
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@user3067860 How much damage will hitting a horse do to the front of your semi cab?
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While the scenario painted may seem quite bizarre and downright deadly, the fact of the matter is, minimal traffic regulation does not necessarily mean you need to drive an Abrams Tank just to make it home from your downtown office park every day!
As a matter of fact, we in the Traffic Tabulation Bureau have conducted a comprehensively exhaustive study of various traffic patterns around the world and have come to the conclusion that, contrary to all expected laws of physics, a small motorcar is every bit as effective as a tank when it comes to negotiating the ebb and flow of every day Britopian traffic.
And the reason is quite simple. Our Bureau have determined that a simple law of physics applies: the denser the traffic, the slower the flow. What this means is that, even when an entirely chaotic, semi-brownian, system is implemented, a much more organic flow is created. As you can see, it is quite possible for large lorries, busses, jeepneys, pedicabs, scooters, hand carts, random animals, pedestrians, rickshaws, trams and motorcars to interact quite safely at lower speeds. Sure, it may take you two hours to travel five miles, but the ride will be very manageable and very unlikely to cause major mishap.
Kindly review our Minimal Traffic Regulation test videos:
Cairo
Delhi
Manila
Addis Ababa
As you can see, every major jurisdiction that implements our system demonstrates how terribly effective it truly is!
answered 2 hours ago
elemtilaselemtilas
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"every major jurisdiction that implements our system demonstrates how terribly effective it truly is!" But how many of those use vehicles where the driver sits on the wrong side?
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– a CVn♦
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Haha! Brilliant. I've extracted a couple of clips from your videos. This youtu.be/VPbUpdmAfck?t=13 is exactly the sort of chaos I was imagining and this youtu.be/l6wb7Sb2lNQ?t=196 shows what happens when things get busy.
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– chasly from UK
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Btw I'm not sure which vehicle you are recommending - is it the mini? Remember the question requires you to get from A to B quickly and safely. (In other words I haven't specified delivery vehicles)
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– chasly from UK
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@chasly I think what this answer is saying is that "anarchy" and "get places quickly" are mutually exclusive, safety or no.
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– Cadence
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@chaslyfromUK -- You didn't ask for a specific make and model! Just "what type" of vehicle! The Transport Tabulation Bureau are quite fond of Morris Motors, if for no other reason than that they are classically cute; but were not prepared to make a specific recommendation.
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– elemtilas
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Bikes. Although humans are not as smart as horses when it comes to not crashing against each other, bikes are cheaper to acquire and maintain, and will generally keep the streets clearer. Drivers can benefit from the exercise.
Also, this being about Britain, I had a certain song from Queen on my mind while typing this.
Bicycle races are coming your way
So forget all your duties oh yeah!
Fat bottomed girls they'll be riding today
So look out for those beauties oh yeah
answered 1 hour ago
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Since this is more or less Britain, I'd vote for the Challenger 2 MBT
It will simply roll over any "normal" automobile, leaving behind a trail of flattened Jags, Bentleys, Land Rovers, Beamers and Morris Minors.
answered 2 hours ago
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I think flattening people's cars while they are still in them would violate the 'no murder' rule.
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– chasly from UK
2 hours ago
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@chaslyfromUK - But it's a collision. If they use the main gun, on the other hand....
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– WhatRoughBeast
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@WhatRoughBeast it would not be the first time a British person has thought of using a tank.m.youtube.com/watch?v=PD6qdzQvHhE
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– Sarriesfan
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What happens when two people have the same idea and a two tanks end up playing chicken?
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– Rob
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Contrary to popular belief, more trafic laws makes roads less safe (1, 2). Many places are now reducing the amount of signs to make it safer, and to make sure that attention is on the road and other drivers rather than each other.
No rules is taking that to the extreme, but its not completely unimagineable. Ever been to India? I have and it's true: they do not pay attention to any markings on the road or any signs. The only rule they semi-follow is what side of the road they drive on, but whenever the traffic allows that rule is out of the window too. Strangely enough, driving there felt like one of the safest experiences I've had as people constantly communicate with horns and their movement, but I hadnt experienced a situation where there wasnt adequate time to react and safely get through.
So if a leftists leaves the house and he finds himself encountering rightists he'll join them for the time being, or vice versa. Any intersection that cannot be overseen will be slowly approached in case someone from another direction comes at you. Similar to small roads or similar people will decide on the spot who will pass first and who will move aside, or in this case chose who will temporarily change being a leftist or rightist.
In the end the best car isnt going to be the smallest or the biggest, it's going to be the most visible one with the clearest communication of direction and intent, possibly with a set of horns declaring "watchout", "you go ahead" and "I go ahead". So keep those lights on your car in good working order, strap in and drive safe.
(1) https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/04/removal-road-markings-safer-fewer-accidents-drivers
(2) https://www.drivingtests.co.nz/resources/signage-clutter-what-is-it-and-how-is-it-reduced/
answered 1 hour ago
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"more trafic laws makes roads less safe" - but not from 0. There is some amount of laws that's optimal. Problem is - lawmakers tend to make more to avoid feeling useless ;)
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– Mołot
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@Molot yes, thats why I said "No rules takes that to the extreme".
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– Demigan
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As an example of extreme, in the early 1900s, there were two motorcars registered in the state of Michigan. At a crossroad, in clear weather, with good visibility along all approaching roads - they collided.
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– WhatRoughBeast
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Horses
They are smart enough to not crash themselves on others, even if their riders are completely drunk.
answered 2 hours ago
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So speaks a person who has never ridden a polo pony
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– Separatrix
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@Separatrix polo ponies are trained to do so when made to by players.
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– Mołot
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Only if all drivers are using the same transportation type...since there's no regulation, this seems unlikely. Horses are fantastic, but will not help you much if someone else drives a semi into you.
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– user3067860
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@user3067860 How much damage will hitting a horse do to the front of your semi cab?
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– immibis
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Horses
They are smart enough to not crash themselves on others, even if their riders are completely drunk.
answered 2 hours ago
Caio NogueiraCaio Nogueira
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So speaks a person who has never ridden a polo pony
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– Separatrix
2 hours ago
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@Separatrix polo ponies are trained to do so when made to by players.
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– Mołot
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Only if all drivers are using the same transportation type...since there's no regulation, this seems unlikely. Horses are fantastic, but will not help you much if someone else drives a semi into you.
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– user3067860
19 mins ago
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@user3067860 How much damage will hitting a horse do to the front of your semi cab?
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– immibis
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Horses
They are smart enough to not crash themselves on others, even if their riders are completely drunk.
answered 2 hours ago
Caio NogueiraCaio Nogueira
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Horses
They are smart enough to not crash themselves on others, even if their riders are completely drunk.
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Caio NogueiraCaio Nogueira
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Caio NogueiraCaio Nogueira
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Caio NogueiraCaio Nogueira
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So speaks a person who has never ridden a polo pony
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– Separatrix
2 hours ago
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@Separatrix polo ponies are trained to do so when made to by players.
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– Mołot
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Only if all drivers are using the same transportation type...since there's no regulation, this seems unlikely. Horses are fantastic, but will not help you much if someone else drives a semi into you.
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– user3067860
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@user3067860 How much damage will hitting a horse do to the front of your semi cab?
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So speaks a person who has never ridden a polo pony
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– Separatrix
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@Separatrix polo ponies are trained to do so when made to by players.
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– Mołot
51 mins ago
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Only if all drivers are using the same transportation type...since there's no regulation, this seems unlikely. Horses are fantastic, but will not help you much if someone else drives a semi into you.
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– user3067860
19 mins ago
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@user3067860 How much damage will hitting a horse do to the front of your semi cab?
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– immibis
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So speaks a person who has never ridden a polo pony
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– Separatrix
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So speaks a person who has never ridden a polo pony
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– Separatrix
2 hours ago
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@Separatrix polo ponies are trained to do so when made to by players.
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– Mołot
51 mins ago
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@Separatrix polo ponies are trained to do so when made to by players.
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– Mołot
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Only if all drivers are using the same transportation type...since there's no regulation, this seems unlikely. Horses are fantastic, but will not help you much if someone else drives a semi into you.
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– user3067860
19 mins ago
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Only if all drivers are using the same transportation type...since there's no regulation, this seems unlikely. Horses are fantastic, but will not help you much if someone else drives a semi into you.
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– user3067860
19 mins ago
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@user3067860 How much damage will hitting a horse do to the front of your semi cab?
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– immibis
1 min ago
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@user3067860 How much damage will hitting a horse do to the front of your semi cab?
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– immibis
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While the scenario painted may seem quite bizarre and downright deadly, the fact of the matter is, minimal traffic regulation does not necessarily mean you need to drive an Abrams Tank just to make it home from your downtown office park every day!
As a matter of fact, we in the Traffic Tabulation Bureau have conducted a comprehensively exhaustive study of various traffic patterns around the world and have come to the conclusion that, contrary to all expected laws of physics, a small motorcar is every bit as effective as a tank when it comes to negotiating the ebb and flow of every day Britopian traffic.
And the reason is quite simple. Our Bureau have determined that a simple law of physics applies: the denser the traffic, the slower the flow. What this means is that, even when an entirely chaotic, semi-brownian, system is implemented, a much more organic flow is created. As you can see, it is quite possible for large lorries, busses, jeepneys, pedicabs, scooters, hand carts, random animals, pedestrians, rickshaws, trams and motorcars to interact quite safely at lower speeds. Sure, it may take you two hours to travel five miles, but the ride will be very manageable and very unlikely to cause major mishap.
Kindly review our Minimal Traffic Regulation test videos:
Cairo
Delhi
Manila
Addis Ababa
As you can see, every major jurisdiction that implements our system demonstrates how terribly effective it truly is!
answered 2 hours ago
elemtilaselemtilas
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"every major jurisdiction that implements our system demonstrates how terribly effective it truly is!" But how many of those use vehicles where the driver sits on the wrong side?
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– a CVn♦
1 hour ago
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Haha! Brilliant. I've extracted a couple of clips from your videos. This youtu.be/VPbUpdmAfck?t=13 is exactly the sort of chaos I was imagining and this youtu.be/l6wb7Sb2lNQ?t=196 shows what happens when things get busy.
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– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
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Btw I'm not sure which vehicle you are recommending - is it the mini? Remember the question requires you to get from A to B quickly and safely. (In other words I haven't specified delivery vehicles)
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– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
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@chasly I think what this answer is saying is that "anarchy" and "get places quickly" are mutually exclusive, safety or no.
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– Cadence
48 mins ago
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@chaslyfromUK -- You didn't ask for a specific make and model! Just "what type" of vehicle! The Transport Tabulation Bureau are quite fond of Morris Motors, if for no other reason than that they are classically cute; but were not prepared to make a specific recommendation.
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– elemtilas
4 mins ago
add a comment |
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While the scenario painted may seem quite bizarre and downright deadly, the fact of the matter is, minimal traffic regulation does not necessarily mean you need to drive an Abrams Tank just to make it home from your downtown office park every day!
As a matter of fact, we in the Traffic Tabulation Bureau have conducted a comprehensively exhaustive study of various traffic patterns around the world and have come to the conclusion that, contrary to all expected laws of physics, a small motorcar is every bit as effective as a tank when it comes to negotiating the ebb and flow of every day Britopian traffic.
And the reason is quite simple. Our Bureau have determined that a simple law of physics applies: the denser the traffic, the slower the flow. What this means is that, even when an entirely chaotic, semi-brownian, system is implemented, a much more organic flow is created. As you can see, it is quite possible for large lorries, busses, jeepneys, pedicabs, scooters, hand carts, random animals, pedestrians, rickshaws, trams and motorcars to interact quite safely at lower speeds. Sure, it may take you two hours to travel five miles, but the ride will be very manageable and very unlikely to cause major mishap.
Kindly review our Minimal Traffic Regulation test videos:
Cairo
Delhi
Manila
Addis Ababa
As you can see, every major jurisdiction that implements our system demonstrates how terribly effective it truly is!
answered 2 hours ago
elemtilaselemtilas
12.7k22658
$endgroup$
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"every major jurisdiction that implements our system demonstrates how terribly effective it truly is!" But how many of those use vehicles where the driver sits on the wrong side?
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– a CVn♦
1 hour ago
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Haha! Brilliant. I've extracted a couple of clips from your videos. This youtu.be/VPbUpdmAfck?t=13 is exactly the sort of chaos I was imagining and this youtu.be/l6wb7Sb2lNQ?t=196 shows what happens when things get busy.
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– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
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Btw I'm not sure which vehicle you are recommending - is it the mini? Remember the question requires you to get from A to B quickly and safely. (In other words I haven't specified delivery vehicles)
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– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
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@chasly I think what this answer is saying is that "anarchy" and "get places quickly" are mutually exclusive, safety or no.
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– Cadence
48 mins ago
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@chaslyfromUK -- You didn't ask for a specific make and model! Just "what type" of vehicle! The Transport Tabulation Bureau are quite fond of Morris Motors, if for no other reason than that they are classically cute; but were not prepared to make a specific recommendation.
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– elemtilas
4 mins ago
add a comment |
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While the scenario painted may seem quite bizarre and downright deadly, the fact of the matter is, minimal traffic regulation does not necessarily mean you need to drive an Abrams Tank just to make it home from your downtown office park every day!
As a matter of fact, we in the Traffic Tabulation Bureau have conducted a comprehensively exhaustive study of various traffic patterns around the world and have come to the conclusion that, contrary to all expected laws of physics, a small motorcar is every bit as effective as a tank when it comes to negotiating the ebb and flow of every day Britopian traffic.
And the reason is quite simple. Our Bureau have determined that a simple law of physics applies: the denser the traffic, the slower the flow. What this means is that, even when an entirely chaotic, semi-brownian, system is implemented, a much more organic flow is created. As you can see, it is quite possible for large lorries, busses, jeepneys, pedicabs, scooters, hand carts, random animals, pedestrians, rickshaws, trams and motorcars to interact quite safely at lower speeds. Sure, it may take you two hours to travel five miles, but the ride will be very manageable and very unlikely to cause major mishap.
Kindly review our Minimal Traffic Regulation test videos:
Cairo
Delhi
Manila
Addis Ababa
As you can see, every major jurisdiction that implements our system demonstrates how terribly effective it truly is!
answered 2 hours ago
elemtilaselemtilas
12.7k22658
$endgroup$
While the scenario painted may seem quite bizarre and downright deadly, the fact of the matter is, minimal traffic regulation does not necessarily mean you need to drive an Abrams Tank just to make it home from your downtown office park every day!
As a matter of fact, we in the Traffic Tabulation Bureau have conducted a comprehensively exhaustive study of various traffic patterns around the world and have come to the conclusion that, contrary to all expected laws of physics, a small motorcar is every bit as effective as a tank when it comes to negotiating the ebb and flow of every day Britopian traffic.
And the reason is quite simple. Our Bureau have determined that a simple law of physics applies: the denser the traffic, the slower the flow. What this means is that, even when an entirely chaotic, semi-brownian, system is implemented, a much more organic flow is created. As you can see, it is quite possible for large lorries, busses, jeepneys, pedicabs, scooters, hand carts, random animals, pedestrians, rickshaws, trams and motorcars to interact quite safely at lower speeds. Sure, it may take you two hours to travel five miles, but the ride will be very manageable and very unlikely to cause major mishap.
Kindly review our Minimal Traffic Regulation test videos:
Cairo
Delhi
Manila
Addis Ababa
As you can see, every major jurisdiction that implements our system demonstrates how terribly effective it truly is!
answered 2 hours ago
elemtilaselemtilas
12.7k22658
answered 2 hours ago
elemtilaselemtilas
12.7k22658
answered 2 hours ago
elemtilaselemtilas
12.7k22658
answered 2 hours ago
elemtilaselemtilas
12.7k22658
12.7k22658
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"every major jurisdiction that implements our system demonstrates how terribly effective it truly is!" But how many of those use vehicles where the driver sits on the wrong side?
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– a CVn♦
1 hour ago
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Haha! Brilliant. I've extracted a couple of clips from your videos. This youtu.be/VPbUpdmAfck?t=13 is exactly the sort of chaos I was imagining and this youtu.be/l6wb7Sb2lNQ?t=196 shows what happens when things get busy.
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– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
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Btw I'm not sure which vehicle you are recommending - is it the mini? Remember the question requires you to get from A to B quickly and safely. (In other words I haven't specified delivery vehicles)
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– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
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@chasly I think what this answer is saying is that "anarchy" and "get places quickly" are mutually exclusive, safety or no.
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– Cadence
48 mins ago
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@chaslyfromUK -- You didn't ask for a specific make and model! Just "what type" of vehicle! The Transport Tabulation Bureau are quite fond of Morris Motors, if for no other reason than that they are classically cute; but were not prepared to make a specific recommendation.
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– elemtilas
4 mins ago
add a comment |
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"every major jurisdiction that implements our system demonstrates how terribly effective it truly is!" But how many of those use vehicles where the driver sits on the wrong side?
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– a CVn♦
1 hour ago
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Haha! Brilliant. I've extracted a couple of clips from your videos. This youtu.be/VPbUpdmAfck?t=13 is exactly the sort of chaos I was imagining and this youtu.be/l6wb7Sb2lNQ?t=196 shows what happens when things get busy.
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– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
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Btw I'm not sure which vehicle you are recommending - is it the mini? Remember the question requires you to get from A to B quickly and safely. (In other words I haven't specified delivery vehicles)
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– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
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@chasly I think what this answer is saying is that "anarchy" and "get places quickly" are mutually exclusive, safety or no.
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– Cadence
48 mins ago
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@chaslyfromUK -- You didn't ask for a specific make and model! Just "what type" of vehicle! The Transport Tabulation Bureau are quite fond of Morris Motors, if for no other reason than that they are classically cute; but were not prepared to make a specific recommendation.
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– elemtilas
4 mins ago
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"every major jurisdiction that implements our system demonstrates how terribly effective it truly is!" But how many of those use vehicles where the driver sits on the wrong side?
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– a CVn♦
1 hour ago
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"every major jurisdiction that implements our system demonstrates how terribly effective it truly is!" But how many of those use vehicles where the driver sits on the wrong side?
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– a CVn♦
1 hour ago
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Haha! Brilliant. I've extracted a couple of clips from your videos. This youtu.be/VPbUpdmAfck?t=13 is exactly the sort of chaos I was imagining and this youtu.be/l6wb7Sb2lNQ?t=196 shows what happens when things get busy.
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– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
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Haha! Brilliant. I've extracted a couple of clips from your videos. This youtu.be/VPbUpdmAfck?t=13 is exactly the sort of chaos I was imagining and this youtu.be/l6wb7Sb2lNQ?t=196 shows what happens when things get busy.
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– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
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Btw I'm not sure which vehicle you are recommending - is it the mini? Remember the question requires you to get from A to B quickly and safely. (In other words I haven't specified delivery vehicles)
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– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
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Btw I'm not sure which vehicle you are recommending - is it the mini? Remember the question requires you to get from A to B quickly and safely. (In other words I haven't specified delivery vehicles)
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– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
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@chasly I think what this answer is saying is that "anarchy" and "get places quickly" are mutually exclusive, safety or no.
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– Cadence
48 mins ago
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@chasly I think what this answer is saying is that "anarchy" and "get places quickly" are mutually exclusive, safety or no.
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– Cadence
48 mins ago
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@chaslyfromUK -- You didn't ask for a specific make and model! Just "what type" of vehicle! The Transport Tabulation Bureau are quite fond of Morris Motors, if for no other reason than that they are classically cute; but were not prepared to make a specific recommendation.
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– elemtilas
4 mins ago
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@chaslyfromUK -- You didn't ask for a specific make and model! Just "what type" of vehicle! The Transport Tabulation Bureau are quite fond of Morris Motors, if for no other reason than that they are classically cute; but were not prepared to make a specific recommendation.
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– elemtilas
4 mins ago
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Bikes. Although humans are not as smart as horses when it comes to not crashing against each other, bikes are cheaper to acquire and maintain, and will generally keep the streets clearer. Drivers can benefit from the exercise.
Also, this being about Britain, I had a certain song from Queen on my mind while typing this.
Bicycle races are coming your way
So forget all your duties oh yeah!
Fat bottomed girls they'll be riding today
So look out for those beauties oh yeah
answered 1 hour ago
RenanRenan
45.6k11105229
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Bikes. Although humans are not as smart as horses when it comes to not crashing against each other, bikes are cheaper to acquire and maintain, and will generally keep the streets clearer. Drivers can benefit from the exercise.
Also, this being about Britain, I had a certain song from Queen on my mind while typing this.
Bicycle races are coming your way
So forget all your duties oh yeah!
Fat bottomed girls they'll be riding today
So look out for those beauties oh yeah
answered 1 hour ago
RenanRenan
45.6k11105229
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add a comment |
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Bikes. Although humans are not as smart as horses when it comes to not crashing against each other, bikes are cheaper to acquire and maintain, and will generally keep the streets clearer. Drivers can benefit from the exercise.
Also, this being about Britain, I had a certain song from Queen on my mind while typing this.
Bicycle races are coming your way
So forget all your duties oh yeah!
Fat bottomed girls they'll be riding today
So look out for those beauties oh yeah
answered 1 hour ago
RenanRenan
45.6k11105229
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Bikes. Although humans are not as smart as horses when it comes to not crashing against each other, bikes are cheaper to acquire and maintain, and will generally keep the streets clearer. Drivers can benefit from the exercise.
Also, this being about Britain, I had a certain song from Queen on my mind while typing this.
Bicycle races are coming your way
So forget all your duties oh yeah!
Fat bottomed girls they'll be riding today
So look out for those beauties oh yeah
answered 1 hour ago
RenanRenan
45.6k11105229
answered 1 hour ago
RenanRenan
45.6k11105229
answered 1 hour ago
RenanRenan
45.6k11105229
answered 1 hour ago
RenanRenan
45.6k11105229
45.6k11105229
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Since this is more or less Britain, I'd vote for the Challenger 2 MBT
It will simply roll over any "normal" automobile, leaving behind a trail of flattened Jags, Bentleys, Land Rovers, Beamers and Morris Minors.
answered 2 hours ago
WhatRoughBeastWhatRoughBeast
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I think flattening people's cars while they are still in them would violate the 'no murder' rule.
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– chasly from UK
2 hours ago
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@chaslyfromUK - But it's a collision. If they use the main gun, on the other hand....
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– WhatRoughBeast
2 hours ago
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@WhatRoughBeast it would not be the first time a British person has thought of using a tank.m.youtube.com/watch?v=PD6qdzQvHhE
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– Sarriesfan
1 hour ago
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What happens when two people have the same idea and a two tanks end up playing chicken?
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– Rob
28 mins ago
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The primary problem with this idea is when everybody uses it.
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– Joshua
21 mins ago
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Since this is more or less Britain, I'd vote for the Challenger 2 MBT
It will simply roll over any "normal" automobile, leaving behind a trail of flattened Jags, Bentleys, Land Rovers, Beamers and Morris Minors.
answered 2 hours ago
WhatRoughBeastWhatRoughBeast
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I think flattening people's cars while they are still in them would violate the 'no murder' rule.
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– chasly from UK
2 hours ago
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@chaslyfromUK - But it's a collision. If they use the main gun, on the other hand....
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– WhatRoughBeast
2 hours ago
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@WhatRoughBeast it would not be the first time a British person has thought of using a tank.m.youtube.com/watch?v=PD6qdzQvHhE
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– Sarriesfan
1 hour ago
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What happens when two people have the same idea and a two tanks end up playing chicken?
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– Rob
28 mins ago
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The primary problem with this idea is when everybody uses it.
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– Joshua
21 mins ago
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Since this is more or less Britain, I'd vote for the Challenger 2 MBT
It will simply roll over any "normal" automobile, leaving behind a trail of flattened Jags, Bentleys, Land Rovers, Beamers and Morris Minors.
answered 2 hours ago
WhatRoughBeastWhatRoughBeast
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Since this is more or less Britain, I'd vote for the Challenger 2 MBT
It will simply roll over any "normal" automobile, leaving behind a trail of flattened Jags, Bentleys, Land Rovers, Beamers and Morris Minors.
answered 2 hours ago
WhatRoughBeastWhatRoughBeast
22k23177
answered 2 hours ago
WhatRoughBeastWhatRoughBeast
22k23177
answered 2 hours ago
WhatRoughBeastWhatRoughBeast
22k23177
answered 2 hours ago
WhatRoughBeastWhatRoughBeast
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I think flattening people's cars while they are still in them would violate the 'no murder' rule.
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– chasly from UK
2 hours ago
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@chaslyfromUK - But it's a collision. If they use the main gun, on the other hand....
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– WhatRoughBeast
2 hours ago
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@WhatRoughBeast it would not be the first time a British person has thought of using a tank.m.youtube.com/watch?v=PD6qdzQvHhE
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– Sarriesfan
1 hour ago
2
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What happens when two people have the same idea and a two tanks end up playing chicken?
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– Rob
28 mins ago
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The primary problem with this idea is when everybody uses it.
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– Joshua
21 mins ago
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I think flattening people's cars while they are still in them would violate the 'no murder' rule.
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– chasly from UK
2 hours ago
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@chaslyfromUK - But it's a collision. If they use the main gun, on the other hand....
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– WhatRoughBeast
2 hours ago
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@WhatRoughBeast it would not be the first time a British person has thought of using a tank.m.youtube.com/watch?v=PD6qdzQvHhE
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– Sarriesfan
1 hour ago
2
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What happens when two people have the same idea and a two tanks end up playing chicken?
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– Rob
28 mins ago
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The primary problem with this idea is when everybody uses it.
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– Joshua
21 mins ago
2
2
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I think flattening people's cars while they are still in them would violate the 'no murder' rule.
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– chasly from UK
2 hours ago
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I think flattening people's cars while they are still in them would violate the 'no murder' rule.
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– chasly from UK
2 hours ago
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@chaslyfromUK - But it's a collision. If they use the main gun, on the other hand....
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– WhatRoughBeast
2 hours ago
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@chaslyfromUK - But it's a collision. If they use the main gun, on the other hand....
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– WhatRoughBeast
2 hours ago
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@WhatRoughBeast it would not be the first time a British person has thought of using a tank.m.youtube.com/watch?v=PD6qdzQvHhE
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– Sarriesfan
1 hour ago
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@WhatRoughBeast it would not be the first time a British person has thought of using a tank.m.youtube.com/watch?v=PD6qdzQvHhE
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– Sarriesfan
1 hour ago
2
2
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What happens when two people have the same idea and a two tanks end up playing chicken?
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– Rob
28 mins ago
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What happens when two people have the same idea and a two tanks end up playing chicken?
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– Rob
28 mins ago
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The primary problem with this idea is when everybody uses it.
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– Joshua
21 mins ago
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The primary problem with this idea is when everybody uses it.
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– Joshua
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Contrary to popular belief, more trafic laws makes roads less safe (1, 2). Many places are now reducing the amount of signs to make it safer, and to make sure that attention is on the road and other drivers rather than each other.
No rules is taking that to the extreme, but its not completely unimagineable. Ever been to India? I have and it's true: they do not pay attention to any markings on the road or any signs. The only rule they semi-follow is what side of the road they drive on, but whenever the traffic allows that rule is out of the window too. Strangely enough, driving there felt like one of the safest experiences I've had as people constantly communicate with horns and their movement, but I hadnt experienced a situation where there wasnt adequate time to react and safely get through.
So if a leftists leaves the house and he finds himself encountering rightists he'll join them for the time being, or vice versa. Any intersection that cannot be overseen will be slowly approached in case someone from another direction comes at you. Similar to small roads or similar people will decide on the spot who will pass first and who will move aside, or in this case chose who will temporarily change being a leftist or rightist.
In the end the best car isnt going to be the smallest or the biggest, it's going to be the most visible one with the clearest communication of direction and intent, possibly with a set of horns declaring "watchout", "you go ahead" and "I go ahead". So keep those lights on your car in good working order, strap in and drive safe.
(1) https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/04/removal-road-markings-safer-fewer-accidents-drivers
(2) https://www.drivingtests.co.nz/resources/signage-clutter-what-is-it-and-how-is-it-reduced/
answered 1 hour ago
DemiganDemigan
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"more trafic laws makes roads less safe" - but not from 0. There is some amount of laws that's optimal. Problem is - lawmakers tend to make more to avoid feeling useless ;)
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– Mołot
50 mins ago
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@Molot yes, thats why I said "No rules takes that to the extreme".
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– Demigan
29 mins ago
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As an example of extreme, in the early 1900s, there were two motorcars registered in the state of Michigan. At a crossroad, in clear weather, with good visibility along all approaching roads - they collided.
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– WhatRoughBeast
14 mins ago
add a comment |
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Contrary to popular belief, more trafic laws makes roads less safe (1, 2). Many places are now reducing the amount of signs to make it safer, and to make sure that attention is on the road and other drivers rather than each other.
No rules is taking that to the extreme, but its not completely unimagineable. Ever been to India? I have and it's true: they do not pay attention to any markings on the road or any signs. The only rule they semi-follow is what side of the road they drive on, but whenever the traffic allows that rule is out of the window too. Strangely enough, driving there felt like one of the safest experiences I've had as people constantly communicate with horns and their movement, but I hadnt experienced a situation where there wasnt adequate time to react and safely get through.
So if a leftists leaves the house and he finds himself encountering rightists he'll join them for the time being, or vice versa. Any intersection that cannot be overseen will be slowly approached in case someone from another direction comes at you. Similar to small roads or similar people will decide on the spot who will pass first and who will move aside, or in this case chose who will temporarily change being a leftist or rightist.
In the end the best car isnt going to be the smallest or the biggest, it's going to be the most visible one with the clearest communication of direction and intent, possibly with a set of horns declaring "watchout", "you go ahead" and "I go ahead". So keep those lights on your car in good working order, strap in and drive safe.
(1) https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/04/removal-road-markings-safer-fewer-accidents-drivers
(2) https://www.drivingtests.co.nz/resources/signage-clutter-what-is-it-and-how-is-it-reduced/
answered 1 hour ago
DemiganDemigan
8,0221841
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"more trafic laws makes roads less safe" - but not from 0. There is some amount of laws that's optimal. Problem is - lawmakers tend to make more to avoid feeling useless ;)
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– Mołot
50 mins ago
1
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@Molot yes, thats why I said "No rules takes that to the extreme".
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– Demigan
29 mins ago
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As an example of extreme, in the early 1900s, there were two motorcars registered in the state of Michigan. At a crossroad, in clear weather, with good visibility along all approaching roads - they collided.
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– WhatRoughBeast
14 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Contrary to popular belief, more trafic laws makes roads less safe (1, 2). Many places are now reducing the amount of signs to make it safer, and to make sure that attention is on the road and other drivers rather than each other.
No rules is taking that to the extreme, but its not completely unimagineable. Ever been to India? I have and it's true: they do not pay attention to any markings on the road or any signs. The only rule they semi-follow is what side of the road they drive on, but whenever the traffic allows that rule is out of the window too. Strangely enough, driving there felt like one of the safest experiences I've had as people constantly communicate with horns and their movement, but I hadnt experienced a situation where there wasnt adequate time to react and safely get through.
So if a leftists leaves the house and he finds himself encountering rightists he'll join them for the time being, or vice versa. Any intersection that cannot be overseen will be slowly approached in case someone from another direction comes at you. Similar to small roads or similar people will decide on the spot who will pass first and who will move aside, or in this case chose who will temporarily change being a leftist or rightist.
In the end the best car isnt going to be the smallest or the biggest, it's going to be the most visible one with the clearest communication of direction and intent, possibly with a set of horns declaring "watchout", "you go ahead" and "I go ahead". So keep those lights on your car in good working order, strap in and drive safe.
(1) https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/04/removal-road-markings-safer-fewer-accidents-drivers
(2) https://www.drivingtests.co.nz/resources/signage-clutter-what-is-it-and-how-is-it-reduced/
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Contrary to popular belief, more trafic laws makes roads less safe (1, 2). Many places are now reducing the amount of signs to make it safer, and to make sure that attention is on the road and other drivers rather than each other.
No rules is taking that to the extreme, but its not completely unimagineable. Ever been to India? I have and it's true: they do not pay attention to any markings on the road or any signs. The only rule they semi-follow is what side of the road they drive on, but whenever the traffic allows that rule is out of the window too. Strangely enough, driving there felt like one of the safest experiences I've had as people constantly communicate with horns and their movement, but I hadnt experienced a situation where there wasnt adequate time to react and safely get through.
So if a leftists leaves the house and he finds himself encountering rightists he'll join them for the time being, or vice versa. Any intersection that cannot be overseen will be slowly approached in case someone from another direction comes at you. Similar to small roads or similar people will decide on the spot who will pass first and who will move aside, or in this case chose who will temporarily change being a leftist or rightist.
In the end the best car isnt going to be the smallest or the biggest, it's going to be the most visible one with the clearest communication of direction and intent, possibly with a set of horns declaring "watchout", "you go ahead" and "I go ahead". So keep those lights on your car in good working order, strap in and drive safe.
(1) https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/04/removal-road-markings-safer-fewer-accidents-drivers
(2) https://www.drivingtests.co.nz/resources/signage-clutter-what-is-it-and-how-is-it-reduced/
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"more trafic laws makes roads less safe" - but not from 0. There is some amount of laws that's optimal. Problem is - lawmakers tend to make more to avoid feeling useless ;)
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– Mołot
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@Molot yes, thats why I said "No rules takes that to the extreme".
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– Demigan
29 mins ago
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As an example of extreme, in the early 1900s, there were two motorcars registered in the state of Michigan. At a crossroad, in clear weather, with good visibility along all approaching roads - they collided.
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– WhatRoughBeast
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"more trafic laws makes roads less safe" - but not from 0. There is some amount of laws that's optimal. Problem is - lawmakers tend to make more to avoid feeling useless ;)
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– Mołot
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@Molot yes, thats why I said "No rules takes that to the extreme".
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– Demigan
29 mins ago
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As an example of extreme, in the early 1900s, there were two motorcars registered in the state of Michigan. At a crossroad, in clear weather, with good visibility along all approaching roads - they collided.
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– WhatRoughBeast
14 mins ago
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"more trafic laws makes roads less safe" - but not from 0. There is some amount of laws that's optimal. Problem is - lawmakers tend to make more to avoid feeling useless ;)
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– Mołot
50 mins ago
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"more trafic laws makes roads less safe" - but not from 0. There is some amount of laws that's optimal. Problem is - lawmakers tend to make more to avoid feeling useless ;)
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– Mołot
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@Molot yes, thats why I said "No rules takes that to the extreme".
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– Demigan
29 mins ago
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@Molot yes, thats why I said "No rules takes that to the extreme".
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– Demigan
29 mins ago
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As an example of extreme, in the early 1900s, there were two motorcars registered in the state of Michigan. At a crossroad, in clear weather, with good visibility along all approaching roads - they collided.
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– WhatRoughBeast
14 mins ago
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As an example of extreme, in the early 1900s, there were two motorcars registered in the state of Michigan. At a crossroad, in clear weather, with good visibility along all approaching roads - they collided.
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– WhatRoughBeast
14 mins ago
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Vote exactly in the middle is practically impossible and in most law systems would mean that things stay the way they were. Situation you describe is utterly impossible, people are not that stupid.
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Don't twist what I said, please. As for Brexit - yes, they didn't figure out the deal, so they are still going to exit, nothing changes. Just like what I've said.
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Be nice, please.
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Clearly y'all have never watched any of the ten million "worlds worst traffic" videos on Youtube! Chasly is basically describing every day traffic in, for example, Cairo, except they do apparently drive mostly on opposite sides of the street. Forget about what is "impossible" and get along with answering the questions! (And what Brexit has to do with anything is beyond me...)
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The problem with something like this is that when there is a benefit in some kind of consensus to make society function well and the law is silent social norms fill the vacuum. Hell if anything laws are mostly a step up from social norms, they are just norms that have become so important to the population that the majority largely favour enforcing those norms with the threat of violence or other punishment from the state if necessary. There is no law saying what side of the escalator to stand on the London underground but being consistent is helpful thus social norms encourage compliance.
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