Is listing annexed territory listed in author details a valid reason to decline to review?
I recently accepted a paper review based on an abstract.
On seeing the paper, at least one of the authors has listed their address as being within an unrecognized annexed territory, like this:
Author, X university, Y annexed territory, Z annexing state
I am interested in the community views on whether this is reason to decline the review. And, if so, should the reason be declared.
At the moment, I intend to decline as I do not wish to legitimize the annexation in any way. On the other hand, I also do not wish to discriminate against individual researchers.
How much should the decision depend on:
the perceived quality of work?
personal links?
time since/extent of violence during annexation?
Can anyone offer a good framework for thinking about this?
peer-review ethics policy politics
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I recently accepted a paper review based on an abstract.
On seeing the paper, at least one of the authors has listed their address as being within an unrecognized annexed territory, like this:
Author, X university, Y annexed territory, Z annexing state
I am interested in the community views on whether this is reason to decline the review. And, if so, should the reason be declared.
At the moment, I intend to decline as I do not wish to legitimize the annexation in any way. On the other hand, I also do not wish to discriminate against individual researchers.
How much should the decision depend on:
the perceived quality of work?
personal links?
time since/extent of violence during annexation?
Can anyone offer a good framework for thinking about this?
peer-review ethics policy politics
New contributor
6
You can decline to review for any reason, including none. It is understood that a practicing scientist should be reviewing a reasonable amount of papers anually, but no one gets to tell you which ones. That said, the idea that by reviewing a paper you are "legitimizing" anything but its actual scientific content is far-fetched; often enough the locations of the authors are rewritten beyond recognition by the editorial assistants anyway (I remember seeing Springer turn a "Moscow, ID" into "Moscow, ID, Russia").
– darij grinberg
3 hours ago
7
I intend to decline as I do not wish to legitimize the annexation in any way On the contrary, the language as-is is not a legitimization, in fact, the opposite. I would consider an endorsement in this vein a refusal or declination to acknowledge the annexation in anything other than a de facto sense, if one were even to link this note to a reviewer's opinion on geopolitics (an in fact, whether anyone even cares if a random researcher approves of their border actions).
– Azor Ahai
3 hours ago
2
@darijgrinberg You can decline to review for any reason, including none. That’s not true: while saying “I decline” without offering a reason is indeed a valid response, if one does give a reason then there are many reasons which would be invalid (e.g., “I decline to review this paper because the author is a woman”). OP’s question is precisely about whether his reason is among those (and if so, what that means he should do).
– Dan Romik
3 hours ago
1
@DanRomik: As a referee, you are not interacting with the author, only with the editor. You have a purely advisory role. It is the editor's job to filter out nonsense, and by giving self-disqualifying reasons like that, you're making said job particularly easy. It's a win-win. The hard ones are the ones that pretend to be impartial.
– darij grinberg
3 hours ago
2
Why would reviewing be "legitimizing" the annexation? That makes no sense.
– user76284
52 mins ago
|
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I recently accepted a paper review based on an abstract.
On seeing the paper, at least one of the authors has listed their address as being within an unrecognized annexed territory, like this:
Author, X university, Y annexed territory, Z annexing state
I am interested in the community views on whether this is reason to decline the review. And, if so, should the reason be declared.
At the moment, I intend to decline as I do not wish to legitimize the annexation in any way. On the other hand, I also do not wish to discriminate against individual researchers.
How much should the decision depend on:
the perceived quality of work?
personal links?
time since/extent of violence during annexation?
Can anyone offer a good framework for thinking about this?
peer-review ethics policy politics
New contributor
I recently accepted a paper review based on an abstract.
On seeing the paper, at least one of the authors has listed their address as being within an unrecognized annexed territory, like this:
Author, X university, Y annexed territory, Z annexing state
I am interested in the community views on whether this is reason to decline the review. And, if so, should the reason be declared.
At the moment, I intend to decline as I do not wish to legitimize the annexation in any way. On the other hand, I also do not wish to discriminate against individual researchers.
How much should the decision depend on:
the perceived quality of work?
personal links?
time since/extent of violence during annexation?
Can anyone offer a good framework for thinking about this?
peer-review ethics policy politics
peer-review ethics policy politics
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You can decline to review for any reason, including none. It is understood that a practicing scientist should be reviewing a reasonable amount of papers anually, but no one gets to tell you which ones. That said, the idea that by reviewing a paper you are "legitimizing" anything but its actual scientific content is far-fetched; often enough the locations of the authors are rewritten beyond recognition by the editorial assistants anyway (I remember seeing Springer turn a "Moscow, ID" into "Moscow, ID, Russia").
– darij grinberg
3 hours ago
7
I intend to decline as I do not wish to legitimize the annexation in any way On the contrary, the language as-is is not a legitimization, in fact, the opposite. I would consider an endorsement in this vein a refusal or declination to acknowledge the annexation in anything other than a de facto sense, if one were even to link this note to a reviewer's opinion on geopolitics (an in fact, whether anyone even cares if a random researcher approves of their border actions).
– Azor Ahai
3 hours ago
2
@darijgrinberg You can decline to review for any reason, including none. That’s not true: while saying “I decline” without offering a reason is indeed a valid response, if one does give a reason then there are many reasons which would be invalid (e.g., “I decline to review this paper because the author is a woman”). OP’s question is precisely about whether his reason is among those (and if so, what that means he should do).
– Dan Romik
3 hours ago
1
@DanRomik: As a referee, you are not interacting with the author, only with the editor. You have a purely advisory role. It is the editor's job to filter out nonsense, and by giving self-disqualifying reasons like that, you're making said job particularly easy. It's a win-win. The hard ones are the ones that pretend to be impartial.
– darij grinberg
3 hours ago
2
Why would reviewing be "legitimizing" the annexation? That makes no sense.
– user76284
52 mins ago
|
show 2 more comments
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You can decline to review for any reason, including none. It is understood that a practicing scientist should be reviewing a reasonable amount of papers anually, but no one gets to tell you which ones. That said, the idea that by reviewing a paper you are "legitimizing" anything but its actual scientific content is far-fetched; often enough the locations of the authors are rewritten beyond recognition by the editorial assistants anyway (I remember seeing Springer turn a "Moscow, ID" into "Moscow, ID, Russia").
– darij grinberg
3 hours ago
7
I intend to decline as I do not wish to legitimize the annexation in any way On the contrary, the language as-is is not a legitimization, in fact, the opposite. I would consider an endorsement in this vein a refusal or declination to acknowledge the annexation in anything other than a de facto sense, if one were even to link this note to a reviewer's opinion on geopolitics (an in fact, whether anyone even cares if a random researcher approves of their border actions).
– Azor Ahai
3 hours ago
2
@darijgrinberg You can decline to review for any reason, including none. That’s not true: while saying “I decline” without offering a reason is indeed a valid response, if one does give a reason then there are many reasons which would be invalid (e.g., “I decline to review this paper because the author is a woman”). OP’s question is precisely about whether his reason is among those (and if so, what that means he should do).
– Dan Romik
3 hours ago
1
@DanRomik: As a referee, you are not interacting with the author, only with the editor. You have a purely advisory role. It is the editor's job to filter out nonsense, and by giving self-disqualifying reasons like that, you're making said job particularly easy. It's a win-win. The hard ones are the ones that pretend to be impartial.
– darij grinberg
3 hours ago
2
Why would reviewing be "legitimizing" the annexation? That makes no sense.
– user76284
52 mins ago
6
6
You can decline to review for any reason, including none. It is understood that a practicing scientist should be reviewing a reasonable amount of papers anually, but no one gets to tell you which ones. That said, the idea that by reviewing a paper you are "legitimizing" anything but its actual scientific content is far-fetched; often enough the locations of the authors are rewritten beyond recognition by the editorial assistants anyway (I remember seeing Springer turn a "Moscow, ID" into "Moscow, ID, Russia").
– darij grinberg
3 hours ago
You can decline to review for any reason, including none. It is understood that a practicing scientist should be reviewing a reasonable amount of papers anually, but no one gets to tell you which ones. That said, the idea that by reviewing a paper you are "legitimizing" anything but its actual scientific content is far-fetched; often enough the locations of the authors are rewritten beyond recognition by the editorial assistants anyway (I remember seeing Springer turn a "Moscow, ID" into "Moscow, ID, Russia").
– darij grinberg
3 hours ago
7
7
I intend to decline as I do not wish to legitimize the annexation in any way On the contrary, the language as-is is not a legitimization, in fact, the opposite. I would consider an endorsement in this vein a refusal or declination to acknowledge the annexation in anything other than a de facto sense, if one were even to link this note to a reviewer's opinion on geopolitics (an in fact, whether anyone even cares if a random researcher approves of their border actions).
– Azor Ahai
3 hours ago
I intend to decline as I do not wish to legitimize the annexation in any way On the contrary, the language as-is is not a legitimization, in fact, the opposite. I would consider an endorsement in this vein a refusal or declination to acknowledge the annexation in anything other than a de facto sense, if one were even to link this note to a reviewer's opinion on geopolitics (an in fact, whether anyone even cares if a random researcher approves of their border actions).
– Azor Ahai
3 hours ago
2
2
@darijgrinberg You can decline to review for any reason, including none. That’s not true: while saying “I decline” without offering a reason is indeed a valid response, if one does give a reason then there are many reasons which would be invalid (e.g., “I decline to review this paper because the author is a woman”). OP’s question is precisely about whether his reason is among those (and if so, what that means he should do).
– Dan Romik
3 hours ago
@darijgrinberg You can decline to review for any reason, including none. That’s not true: while saying “I decline” without offering a reason is indeed a valid response, if one does give a reason then there are many reasons which would be invalid (e.g., “I decline to review this paper because the author is a woman”). OP’s question is precisely about whether his reason is among those (and if so, what that means he should do).
– Dan Romik
3 hours ago
1
1
@DanRomik: As a referee, you are not interacting with the author, only with the editor. You have a purely advisory role. It is the editor's job to filter out nonsense, and by giving self-disqualifying reasons like that, you're making said job particularly easy. It's a win-win. The hard ones are the ones that pretend to be impartial.
– darij grinberg
3 hours ago
@DanRomik: As a referee, you are not interacting with the author, only with the editor. You have a purely advisory role. It is the editor's job to filter out nonsense, and by giving self-disqualifying reasons like that, you're making said job particularly easy. It's a win-win. The hard ones are the ones that pretend to be impartial.
– darij grinberg
3 hours ago
2
2
Why would reviewing be "legitimizing" the annexation? That makes no sense.
– user76284
52 mins ago
Why would reviewing be "legitimizing" the annexation? That makes no sense.
– user76284
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Since you ask for a framework for thinking about it, I'll suggest that an action on your part that disadvantages the author, perhaps already a victim, won't bring justice. Probably better to ignore that detail and focus on what the author says, and honestly give the usual feedback.
If you want to try to deal with the unfairness of the annexation, there are other places that would be more appropriate and effective.
But your review is independent of any concept of "legitimization". You are giving a service to an author and a journal, not the occupying country.
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And the author likely is either (1) being told how to write the address by somebody with some power over them, or (2) is tempting retribution by the annexing authorities by writing it that way. The author is pretty clearly not trying to 'legitimize' anything, really.
– Jon Custer
3 hours ago
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This is a special case of a question about boycotts, but I see nothing in it that is unique to the situation of an academic reviewer as opposed to any other person needing to make a decision about whether to participate in a boycott of some group of people (other perhaps than the fact that a decision to participate will come at zero cost to you in this case). So, if you are looking for a framework for thinking about the situation, this is it.
Now, one thing you should expect people to tell you (I see it already in some of the answers here) is that your boycott could hurt an innocent person who may actually be a supporter of the same political cause you are trying to support with your boycott. That may be true, but is mostly beside the point - all boycotts have this feature, but many are still logical and useful means to peacefully achieve a political end with minimal harm to all parties involved.
Anyway, the decision of what to review is a personal one - I couldn’t even tell you what I personally would do without knowing the identities of X, Y and Z. As for whether to state the reason, if you do that then you effectively become a publicly outspoken political activist. Perhaps you are the kind of person who wants to play such a role - if so, go ahead, but know that this would incur risks to your reputation; there might well be people refusing to review your own papers down the road...
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You can decline it as you choose. I would probably not bother to give a reason (will be seen as you making a stink.)
It's probably hard to decide where the exact boundary is to making these decisions also. (What feels right.) After all borders have moved around for thousands of years and usually for reasons of force.
I might lean a little towards doing the review but certainly nothing wrong with not doing it if it makes you uncomfortable. And not just for reasons of annexation but even if you have an antipathy to the other country.
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Since you ask for a framework for thinking about it, I'll suggest that an action on your part that disadvantages the author, perhaps already a victim, won't bring justice. Probably better to ignore that detail and focus on what the author says, and honestly give the usual feedback.
If you want to try to deal with the unfairness of the annexation, there are other places that would be more appropriate and effective.
But your review is independent of any concept of "legitimization". You are giving a service to an author and a journal, not the occupying country.
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And the author likely is either (1) being told how to write the address by somebody with some power over them, or (2) is tempting retribution by the annexing authorities by writing it that way. The author is pretty clearly not trying to 'legitimize' anything, really.
– Jon Custer
3 hours ago
add a comment |
Since you ask for a framework for thinking about it, I'll suggest that an action on your part that disadvantages the author, perhaps already a victim, won't bring justice. Probably better to ignore that detail and focus on what the author says, and honestly give the usual feedback.
If you want to try to deal with the unfairness of the annexation, there are other places that would be more appropriate and effective.
But your review is independent of any concept of "legitimization". You are giving a service to an author and a journal, not the occupying country.
12
And the author likely is either (1) being told how to write the address by somebody with some power over them, or (2) is tempting retribution by the annexing authorities by writing it that way. The author is pretty clearly not trying to 'legitimize' anything, really.
– Jon Custer
3 hours ago
add a comment |
Since you ask for a framework for thinking about it, I'll suggest that an action on your part that disadvantages the author, perhaps already a victim, won't bring justice. Probably better to ignore that detail and focus on what the author says, and honestly give the usual feedback.
If you want to try to deal with the unfairness of the annexation, there are other places that would be more appropriate and effective.
But your review is independent of any concept of "legitimization". You are giving a service to an author and a journal, not the occupying country.
Since you ask for a framework for thinking about it, I'll suggest that an action on your part that disadvantages the author, perhaps already a victim, won't bring justice. Probably better to ignore that detail and focus on what the author says, and honestly give the usual feedback.
If you want to try to deal with the unfairness of the annexation, there are other places that would be more appropriate and effective.
But your review is independent of any concept of "legitimization". You are giving a service to an author and a journal, not the occupying country.
answered 3 hours ago
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And the author likely is either (1) being told how to write the address by somebody with some power over them, or (2) is tempting retribution by the annexing authorities by writing it that way. The author is pretty clearly not trying to 'legitimize' anything, really.
– Jon Custer
3 hours ago
add a comment |
12
And the author likely is either (1) being told how to write the address by somebody with some power over them, or (2) is tempting retribution by the annexing authorities by writing it that way. The author is pretty clearly not trying to 'legitimize' anything, really.
– Jon Custer
3 hours ago
12
12
And the author likely is either (1) being told how to write the address by somebody with some power over them, or (2) is tempting retribution by the annexing authorities by writing it that way. The author is pretty clearly not trying to 'legitimize' anything, really.
– Jon Custer
3 hours ago
And the author likely is either (1) being told how to write the address by somebody with some power over them, or (2) is tempting retribution by the annexing authorities by writing it that way. The author is pretty clearly not trying to 'legitimize' anything, really.
– Jon Custer
3 hours ago
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This is a special case of a question about boycotts, but I see nothing in it that is unique to the situation of an academic reviewer as opposed to any other person needing to make a decision about whether to participate in a boycott of some group of people (other perhaps than the fact that a decision to participate will come at zero cost to you in this case). So, if you are looking for a framework for thinking about the situation, this is it.
Now, one thing you should expect people to tell you (I see it already in some of the answers here) is that your boycott could hurt an innocent person who may actually be a supporter of the same political cause you are trying to support with your boycott. That may be true, but is mostly beside the point - all boycotts have this feature, but many are still logical and useful means to peacefully achieve a political end with minimal harm to all parties involved.
Anyway, the decision of what to review is a personal one - I couldn’t even tell you what I personally would do without knowing the identities of X, Y and Z. As for whether to state the reason, if you do that then you effectively become a publicly outspoken political activist. Perhaps you are the kind of person who wants to play such a role - if so, go ahead, but know that this would incur risks to your reputation; there might well be people refusing to review your own papers down the road...
add a comment |
This is a special case of a question about boycotts, but I see nothing in it that is unique to the situation of an academic reviewer as opposed to any other person needing to make a decision about whether to participate in a boycott of some group of people (other perhaps than the fact that a decision to participate will come at zero cost to you in this case). So, if you are looking for a framework for thinking about the situation, this is it.
Now, one thing you should expect people to tell you (I see it already in some of the answers here) is that your boycott could hurt an innocent person who may actually be a supporter of the same political cause you are trying to support with your boycott. That may be true, but is mostly beside the point - all boycotts have this feature, but many are still logical and useful means to peacefully achieve a political end with minimal harm to all parties involved.
Anyway, the decision of what to review is a personal one - I couldn’t even tell you what I personally would do without knowing the identities of X, Y and Z. As for whether to state the reason, if you do that then you effectively become a publicly outspoken political activist. Perhaps you are the kind of person who wants to play such a role - if so, go ahead, but know that this would incur risks to your reputation; there might well be people refusing to review your own papers down the road...
add a comment |
This is a special case of a question about boycotts, but I see nothing in it that is unique to the situation of an academic reviewer as opposed to any other person needing to make a decision about whether to participate in a boycott of some group of people (other perhaps than the fact that a decision to participate will come at zero cost to you in this case). So, if you are looking for a framework for thinking about the situation, this is it.
Now, one thing you should expect people to tell you (I see it already in some of the answers here) is that your boycott could hurt an innocent person who may actually be a supporter of the same political cause you are trying to support with your boycott. That may be true, but is mostly beside the point - all boycotts have this feature, but many are still logical and useful means to peacefully achieve a political end with minimal harm to all parties involved.
Anyway, the decision of what to review is a personal one - I couldn’t even tell you what I personally would do without knowing the identities of X, Y and Z. As for whether to state the reason, if you do that then you effectively become a publicly outspoken political activist. Perhaps you are the kind of person who wants to play such a role - if so, go ahead, but know that this would incur risks to your reputation; there might well be people refusing to review your own papers down the road...
This is a special case of a question about boycotts, but I see nothing in it that is unique to the situation of an academic reviewer as opposed to any other person needing to make a decision about whether to participate in a boycott of some group of people (other perhaps than the fact that a decision to participate will come at zero cost to you in this case). So, if you are looking for a framework for thinking about the situation, this is it.
Now, one thing you should expect people to tell you (I see it already in some of the answers here) is that your boycott could hurt an innocent person who may actually be a supporter of the same political cause you are trying to support with your boycott. That may be true, but is mostly beside the point - all boycotts have this feature, but many are still logical and useful means to peacefully achieve a political end with minimal harm to all parties involved.
Anyway, the decision of what to review is a personal one - I couldn’t even tell you what I personally would do without knowing the identities of X, Y and Z. As for whether to state the reason, if you do that then you effectively become a publicly outspoken political activist. Perhaps you are the kind of person who wants to play such a role - if so, go ahead, but know that this would incur risks to your reputation; there might well be people refusing to review your own papers down the road...
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You can decline it as you choose. I would probably not bother to give a reason (will be seen as you making a stink.)
It's probably hard to decide where the exact boundary is to making these decisions also. (What feels right.) After all borders have moved around for thousands of years and usually for reasons of force.
I might lean a little towards doing the review but certainly nothing wrong with not doing it if it makes you uncomfortable. And not just for reasons of annexation but even if you have an antipathy to the other country.
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You can decline it as you choose. I would probably not bother to give a reason (will be seen as you making a stink.)
It's probably hard to decide where the exact boundary is to making these decisions also. (What feels right.) After all borders have moved around for thousands of years and usually for reasons of force.
I might lean a little towards doing the review but certainly nothing wrong with not doing it if it makes you uncomfortable. And not just for reasons of annexation but even if you have an antipathy to the other country.
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You can decline it as you choose. I would probably not bother to give a reason (will be seen as you making a stink.)
It's probably hard to decide where the exact boundary is to making these decisions also. (What feels right.) After all borders have moved around for thousands of years and usually for reasons of force.
I might lean a little towards doing the review but certainly nothing wrong with not doing it if it makes you uncomfortable. And not just for reasons of annexation but even if you have an antipathy to the other country.
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You can decline it as you choose. I would probably not bother to give a reason (will be seen as you making a stink.)
It's probably hard to decide where the exact boundary is to making these decisions also. (What feels right.) After all borders have moved around for thousands of years and usually for reasons of force.
I might lean a little towards doing the review but certainly nothing wrong with not doing it if it makes you uncomfortable. And not just for reasons of annexation but even if you have an antipathy to the other country.
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You can decline to review for any reason, including none. It is understood that a practicing scientist should be reviewing a reasonable amount of papers anually, but no one gets to tell you which ones. That said, the idea that by reviewing a paper you are "legitimizing" anything but its actual scientific content is far-fetched; often enough the locations of the authors are rewritten beyond recognition by the editorial assistants anyway (I remember seeing Springer turn a "Moscow, ID" into "Moscow, ID, Russia").
– darij grinberg
3 hours ago
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I intend to decline as I do not wish to legitimize the annexation in any way On the contrary, the language as-is is not a legitimization, in fact, the opposite. I would consider an endorsement in this vein a refusal or declination to acknowledge the annexation in anything other than a de facto sense, if one were even to link this note to a reviewer's opinion on geopolitics (an in fact, whether anyone even cares if a random researcher approves of their border actions).
– Azor Ahai
3 hours ago
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@darijgrinberg You can decline to review for any reason, including none. That’s not true: while saying “I decline” without offering a reason is indeed a valid response, if one does give a reason then there are many reasons which would be invalid (e.g., “I decline to review this paper because the author is a woman”). OP’s question is precisely about whether his reason is among those (and if so, what that means he should do).
– Dan Romik
3 hours ago
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@DanRomik: As a referee, you are not interacting with the author, only with the editor. You have a purely advisory role. It is the editor's job to filter out nonsense, and by giving self-disqualifying reasons like that, you're making said job particularly easy. It's a win-win. The hard ones are the ones that pretend to be impartial.
– darij grinberg
3 hours ago
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Why would reviewing be "legitimizing" the annexation? That makes no sense.
– user76284
52 mins ago