Is it bad if I don't like the “best” books in my chosen genre?
(This question is about reading but it pertains to writing as well).
I write fantasy, and as a result, I've read a lot of fantasy books that are supposedly the "best," that are beloved by all fantasy fans ... except me.
Some examples:
- Lord of the Rings trilogy - I loved the Hobbit, but couldn't get through The Fellowship of the Ring. It was just too boring and it felt like nothing was happening
- Wheel of Time series - forced myself to read the whole series because a friend and I were reading it at the same time. Overall it was okay, but I felt like each book was way too long, and I couldn't keep track of all the characters. Did not particularly care what happened to the main characters. Would not read again
- Mistborn trilogy - read it several years ago along with a friend, overall it was okay, wouldn't read again
- Elantris - forced myself to read it for a friend, did not like the political elements
- The Way of Kings - was okay, wouldn't read again
- The Name of the Wind - was okay, wouldn't read again
- Shannara series - read a few books but felt like it took ages for anything interesting to happen (ages, as in 100+ pages)
- American Gods - liked it at first, quit about 80% in when it got boring and read a summary of the book online (after reading the summary, I was glad I hadn't finished the book because I didn't like the direction it took)
- Red Rising - quit because the main character was a Mary Sue
- Game of Thrones - couldn't really get into the first book (based on the little I know of it, I'm not sure I'd be able to keep track of so many characters, or if I'd care about them)
There are fantasy books I do like (it's not like I have a problem with the genre). Titles like:
- Sword of Truth series (I do have issues with the declining quality of the books, but I still like the books better than the books above)
- Earthsea Series
- Harry Potter Series (obviously)
- Hyperion Cantos
- Lunar Chronicles
I should also add that when reading fantasy (or any genre, for that matter), I'm not reading it for the fantasy elements, but for the characters. When I quit reading a book, it's for one of these reasons:
- Indifferent towards the main character / don't care what happens to them
- Main character is a Mary Sue
Is it a bad sign if I don't like the "best" books of my chosen genre? Is there something I just don't get about these books? Should I force myself to read them anyway in the hopes of learning something?
Note: I don't want to start any arguments here - I'm not saying that these books are bad, just that they're not for me.
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(This question is about reading but it pertains to writing as well).
I write fantasy, and as a result, I've read a lot of fantasy books that are supposedly the "best," that are beloved by all fantasy fans ... except me.
Some examples:
- Lord of the Rings trilogy - I loved the Hobbit, but couldn't get through The Fellowship of the Ring. It was just too boring and it felt like nothing was happening
- Wheel of Time series - forced myself to read the whole series because a friend and I were reading it at the same time. Overall it was okay, but I felt like each book was way too long, and I couldn't keep track of all the characters. Did not particularly care what happened to the main characters. Would not read again
- Mistborn trilogy - read it several years ago along with a friend, overall it was okay, wouldn't read again
- Elantris - forced myself to read it for a friend, did not like the political elements
- The Way of Kings - was okay, wouldn't read again
- The Name of the Wind - was okay, wouldn't read again
- Shannara series - read a few books but felt like it took ages for anything interesting to happen (ages, as in 100+ pages)
- American Gods - liked it at first, quit about 80% in when it got boring and read a summary of the book online (after reading the summary, I was glad I hadn't finished the book because I didn't like the direction it took)
- Red Rising - quit because the main character was a Mary Sue
- Game of Thrones - couldn't really get into the first book (based on the little I know of it, I'm not sure I'd be able to keep track of so many characters, or if I'd care about them)
There are fantasy books I do like (it's not like I have a problem with the genre). Titles like:
- Sword of Truth series (I do have issues with the declining quality of the books, but I still like the books better than the books above)
- Earthsea Series
- Harry Potter Series (obviously)
- Hyperion Cantos
- Lunar Chronicles
I should also add that when reading fantasy (or any genre, for that matter), I'm not reading it for the fantasy elements, but for the characters. When I quit reading a book, it's for one of these reasons:
- Indifferent towards the main character / don't care what happens to them
- Main character is a Mary Sue
Is it a bad sign if I don't like the "best" books of my chosen genre? Is there something I just don't get about these books? Should I force myself to read them anyway in the hopes of learning something?
Note: I don't want to start any arguments here - I'm not saying that these books are bad, just that they're not for me.
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I think this would be better on Scifi and Fantasy SE.
– eyeballfrog
4 hours ago
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@eyeballfrog, I beg to differ. The question is about how reading habits and preferences influence writing. To my mind this is about preparing for writing, as the OP emphasises "learning something" from reading.
– Weathervane
4 hours ago
add a comment |
(This question is about reading but it pertains to writing as well).
I write fantasy, and as a result, I've read a lot of fantasy books that are supposedly the "best," that are beloved by all fantasy fans ... except me.
Some examples:
- Lord of the Rings trilogy - I loved the Hobbit, but couldn't get through The Fellowship of the Ring. It was just too boring and it felt like nothing was happening
- Wheel of Time series - forced myself to read the whole series because a friend and I were reading it at the same time. Overall it was okay, but I felt like each book was way too long, and I couldn't keep track of all the characters. Did not particularly care what happened to the main characters. Would not read again
- Mistborn trilogy - read it several years ago along with a friend, overall it was okay, wouldn't read again
- Elantris - forced myself to read it for a friend, did not like the political elements
- The Way of Kings - was okay, wouldn't read again
- The Name of the Wind - was okay, wouldn't read again
- Shannara series - read a few books but felt like it took ages for anything interesting to happen (ages, as in 100+ pages)
- American Gods - liked it at first, quit about 80% in when it got boring and read a summary of the book online (after reading the summary, I was glad I hadn't finished the book because I didn't like the direction it took)
- Red Rising - quit because the main character was a Mary Sue
- Game of Thrones - couldn't really get into the first book (based on the little I know of it, I'm not sure I'd be able to keep track of so many characters, or if I'd care about them)
There are fantasy books I do like (it's not like I have a problem with the genre). Titles like:
- Sword of Truth series (I do have issues with the declining quality of the books, but I still like the books better than the books above)
- Earthsea Series
- Harry Potter Series (obviously)
- Hyperion Cantos
- Lunar Chronicles
I should also add that when reading fantasy (or any genre, for that matter), I'm not reading it for the fantasy elements, but for the characters. When I quit reading a book, it's for one of these reasons:
- Indifferent towards the main character / don't care what happens to them
- Main character is a Mary Sue
Is it a bad sign if I don't like the "best" books of my chosen genre? Is there something I just don't get about these books? Should I force myself to read them anyway in the hopes of learning something?
Note: I don't want to start any arguments here - I'm not saying that these books are bad, just that they're not for me.
fantasy genre
(This question is about reading but it pertains to writing as well).
I write fantasy, and as a result, I've read a lot of fantasy books that are supposedly the "best," that are beloved by all fantasy fans ... except me.
Some examples:
- Lord of the Rings trilogy - I loved the Hobbit, but couldn't get through The Fellowship of the Ring. It was just too boring and it felt like nothing was happening
- Wheel of Time series - forced myself to read the whole series because a friend and I were reading it at the same time. Overall it was okay, but I felt like each book was way too long, and I couldn't keep track of all the characters. Did not particularly care what happened to the main characters. Would not read again
- Mistborn trilogy - read it several years ago along with a friend, overall it was okay, wouldn't read again
- Elantris - forced myself to read it for a friend, did not like the political elements
- The Way of Kings - was okay, wouldn't read again
- The Name of the Wind - was okay, wouldn't read again
- Shannara series - read a few books but felt like it took ages for anything interesting to happen (ages, as in 100+ pages)
- American Gods - liked it at first, quit about 80% in when it got boring and read a summary of the book online (after reading the summary, I was glad I hadn't finished the book because I didn't like the direction it took)
- Red Rising - quit because the main character was a Mary Sue
- Game of Thrones - couldn't really get into the first book (based on the little I know of it, I'm not sure I'd be able to keep track of so many characters, or if I'd care about them)
There are fantasy books I do like (it's not like I have a problem with the genre). Titles like:
- Sword of Truth series (I do have issues with the declining quality of the books, but I still like the books better than the books above)
- Earthsea Series
- Harry Potter Series (obviously)
- Hyperion Cantos
- Lunar Chronicles
I should also add that when reading fantasy (or any genre, for that matter), I'm not reading it for the fantasy elements, but for the characters. When I quit reading a book, it's for one of these reasons:
- Indifferent towards the main character / don't care what happens to them
- Main character is a Mary Sue
Is it a bad sign if I don't like the "best" books of my chosen genre? Is there something I just don't get about these books? Should I force myself to read them anyway in the hopes of learning something?
Note: I don't want to start any arguments here - I'm not saying that these books are bad, just that they're not for me.
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I think this would be better on Scifi and Fantasy SE.
– eyeballfrog
4 hours ago
4
@eyeballfrog, I beg to differ. The question is about how reading habits and preferences influence writing. To my mind this is about preparing for writing, as the OP emphasises "learning something" from reading.
– Weathervane
4 hours ago
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I think this would be better on Scifi and Fantasy SE.
– eyeballfrog
4 hours ago
4
@eyeballfrog, I beg to differ. The question is about how reading habits and preferences influence writing. To my mind this is about preparing for writing, as the OP emphasises "learning something" from reading.
– Weathervane
4 hours ago
I think this would be better on Scifi and Fantasy SE.
– eyeballfrog
4 hours ago
I think this would be better on Scifi and Fantasy SE.
– eyeballfrog
4 hours ago
4
4
@eyeballfrog, I beg to differ. The question is about how reading habits and preferences influence writing. To my mind this is about preparing for writing, as the OP emphasises "learning something" from reading.
– Weathervane
4 hours ago
@eyeballfrog, I beg to differ. The question is about how reading habits and preferences influence writing. To my mind this is about preparing for writing, as the OP emphasises "learning something" from reading.
– Weathervane
4 hours ago
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First of all, what you list as the "best" books is far from an established canon of fantasy. It is a mix of classics (LotR), modern books with a wide fanbase (Sanderson, GoT) and fresh titles that are hyped and may or may not become classics with time (Red Rising).
Note that I'm not bashing your selection, but pointing out a fact: ask a hundred fantasy fans and you will get a hundred lists of titles that are "must-read", "masterpieces" and "not to be missed."
And another hundred of lists of books that are "overhyped" and "not worth all the fuss."
Do not worry about it. What is important is two things:
It's great that you try to figure out why you do not like titles from the top list. Analyse the stuff you read, both the positive and the negative experiences. What was it that put you off? Bad characterisation? Tone and atmosphere? Overcomplicated or oversimple plot? Putting books apart in your mind will help you figure out which elemental parts of the story appeal to you most. You can use this knowledge to figure out what aspects to flesh out in your own writing. After all, you want to write books you would like to read yourself.
Try out different things in fantasy. Do not, as a reader, get stuck in one or two sub-genres. You never know what new trend, theme, or topic may catch your fancy. However, if you try something and do not like it, don't persists just because "it's canon". Your writing will not improve if reading is a chore.
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Short answer: J.K. Rowling has never read a fantasy book in her life, and she did just fine. For that matter, J.R.R. Tolkien hadn't read much fantasy either.
Long answer: who considers the books on your list "best" in their genre? I haven't heard anything other than ridicule for Wheel of Time and Shannara, and I'm not too fond of Harry Potter either (nothing"obvious" about liking that series). The Lord of the Rings is for me a life-changing classic on par with Hemingway, but then a lot of people don't enjoy reading Hemingway. People are different in their likes and dislikes.
Be analytical in your reading: if you like a book, what is it about it that makes it "work" for you? If you don't like it, what "doesn't work"? @Weathervane gives a good explanation on this. Any book has its strengths and weaknesses. Try to find those in the books you are reading, learn from the strengths, avoid the weaknesses. If you fear that you're "missing something", it might be enlightening to talk to someone who liked those books: maybe you did miss something, maybe it's they who missed some problems, and maybe it's just that they weigh the relative strengths and weaknesses of the book differently from you.
J.R.R. Tolkien wrote the book he wanted to read, because it had not been written yet. So can you, if you find out what it is that you want to read, and what it is that makes you turn away from a book.
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I notice the books you don't like you consider "too long", "too long for something to happen", "too boring"...
Despite you saying you like characters, longer books without much happening are likely character-driven; i.e. there is less plot and more character development.
There actually isn't a lot of character development in Harry Potter, it is much more of a mystery/action series than a character-driven series. Just like Sherlock Holmes was an interesting character, but not a well-developed character; we watch Sherlock through the window called Dr. Watson, we don't know what Sherlock feels like or what it feels like to be Sherlock. We watch Sherlock like we watch a stage magician; we don't read Sherlock as if we are Sherlock, we don't see his uncertainties or insecurities or regrets or guilt or inadequacies, or even how he feels about his drug addiction (just that he dismisses it as an issue).
You don't have to love character-intimate fiction; but it sells very well. So does mystery/action, so does horror. If you can be more specific about what you don't like in the stories you wouldn't read again, which passages or scenes you don't like or are uncomfortable with and which you do like, then you will go a long way toward defining the type of story you like and would like to write.
I agree with Galastel; there is absolutely nothing obvious about liking Harry Potter. JK Rowling is technically not a great writer. She gets an A for plotting and writing a mystery, an A+ at pleasing young adults, an A+ for imagination, but only a C for writing. This is probably why "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone" was rejected 12 times.
You will become a better writer if you use some analytic skill to figure out why you like some books and why you dislike other books. That is how you learn who your audience is, and what you want to avoid writing about, and what you need to fill the pages with instead. Perhaps you just want action or physical conflict or more danger every dozen pages, or continuous mystery and clues, or more comedy, or more new magic every few pages.
There is nothing wrong with not liking some fantasy; but there is something wrong with not bothering to understand why you don't like it. If you aspire to be a professional, you will take the time to understand. It will improve your writing.
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If you love stories, you must write your own stories.
There is no "BEST" story in this world..
I got into writing, because I love stories. And that love moves me to tell my own.
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I had a similar issue with a standardize story from genre. I'm writing a lot of Superhero-genre stories and one of the stories I hate is when the heroes friend or girlfreind or some other close relationship gets the Heroes Powers and the friend is upstaging the Hero and they have to fight. Hate those stories. It brings out traits that aren't oridinarily part of the characters in the worst way possible, it's always the same things.
So I made that story set up the entire focus of my first novel with one of my characters. The Superheroes girlfriend is caught in one the cross fire in a fight with a villain and ends up with her own powers (not a copy of his, but her own)... and she doesn't want to do it but he needs some help so she agrees to play superhero until it's not needed... and it turns out she's actually good at it... objectively too (can't get into the details about why, but suffice to say, his public image is a bit more controlled by him than her public image is.).
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First of all, what you list as the "best" books is far from an established canon of fantasy. It is a mix of classics (LotR), modern books with a wide fanbase (Sanderson, GoT) and fresh titles that are hyped and may or may not become classics with time (Red Rising).
Note that I'm not bashing your selection, but pointing out a fact: ask a hundred fantasy fans and you will get a hundred lists of titles that are "must-read", "masterpieces" and "not to be missed."
And another hundred of lists of books that are "overhyped" and "not worth all the fuss."
Do not worry about it. What is important is two things:
It's great that you try to figure out why you do not like titles from the top list. Analyse the stuff you read, both the positive and the negative experiences. What was it that put you off? Bad characterisation? Tone and atmosphere? Overcomplicated or oversimple plot? Putting books apart in your mind will help you figure out which elemental parts of the story appeal to you most. You can use this knowledge to figure out what aspects to flesh out in your own writing. After all, you want to write books you would like to read yourself.
Try out different things in fantasy. Do not, as a reader, get stuck in one or two sub-genres. You never know what new trend, theme, or topic may catch your fancy. However, if you try something and do not like it, don't persists just because "it's canon". Your writing will not improve if reading is a chore.
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First of all, what you list as the "best" books is far from an established canon of fantasy. It is a mix of classics (LotR), modern books with a wide fanbase (Sanderson, GoT) and fresh titles that are hyped and may or may not become classics with time (Red Rising).
Note that I'm not bashing your selection, but pointing out a fact: ask a hundred fantasy fans and you will get a hundred lists of titles that are "must-read", "masterpieces" and "not to be missed."
And another hundred of lists of books that are "overhyped" and "not worth all the fuss."
Do not worry about it. What is important is two things:
It's great that you try to figure out why you do not like titles from the top list. Analyse the stuff you read, both the positive and the negative experiences. What was it that put you off? Bad characterisation? Tone and atmosphere? Overcomplicated or oversimple plot? Putting books apart in your mind will help you figure out which elemental parts of the story appeal to you most. You can use this knowledge to figure out what aspects to flesh out in your own writing. After all, you want to write books you would like to read yourself.
Try out different things in fantasy. Do not, as a reader, get stuck in one or two sub-genres. You never know what new trend, theme, or topic may catch your fancy. However, if you try something and do not like it, don't persists just because "it's canon". Your writing will not improve if reading is a chore.
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First of all, what you list as the "best" books is far from an established canon of fantasy. It is a mix of classics (LotR), modern books with a wide fanbase (Sanderson, GoT) and fresh titles that are hyped and may or may not become classics with time (Red Rising).
Note that I'm not bashing your selection, but pointing out a fact: ask a hundred fantasy fans and you will get a hundred lists of titles that are "must-read", "masterpieces" and "not to be missed."
And another hundred of lists of books that are "overhyped" and "not worth all the fuss."
Do not worry about it. What is important is two things:
It's great that you try to figure out why you do not like titles from the top list. Analyse the stuff you read, both the positive and the negative experiences. What was it that put you off? Bad characterisation? Tone and atmosphere? Overcomplicated or oversimple plot? Putting books apart in your mind will help you figure out which elemental parts of the story appeal to you most. You can use this knowledge to figure out what aspects to flesh out in your own writing. After all, you want to write books you would like to read yourself.
Try out different things in fantasy. Do not, as a reader, get stuck in one or two sub-genres. You never know what new trend, theme, or topic may catch your fancy. However, if you try something and do not like it, don't persists just because "it's canon". Your writing will not improve if reading is a chore.
First of all, what you list as the "best" books is far from an established canon of fantasy. It is a mix of classics (LotR), modern books with a wide fanbase (Sanderson, GoT) and fresh titles that are hyped and may or may not become classics with time (Red Rising).
Note that I'm not bashing your selection, but pointing out a fact: ask a hundred fantasy fans and you will get a hundred lists of titles that are "must-read", "masterpieces" and "not to be missed."
And another hundred of lists of books that are "overhyped" and "not worth all the fuss."
Do not worry about it. What is important is two things:
It's great that you try to figure out why you do not like titles from the top list. Analyse the stuff you read, both the positive and the negative experiences. What was it that put you off? Bad characterisation? Tone and atmosphere? Overcomplicated or oversimple plot? Putting books apart in your mind will help you figure out which elemental parts of the story appeal to you most. You can use this knowledge to figure out what aspects to flesh out in your own writing. After all, you want to write books you would like to read yourself.
Try out different things in fantasy. Do not, as a reader, get stuck in one or two sub-genres. You never know what new trend, theme, or topic may catch your fancy. However, if you try something and do not like it, don't persists just because "it's canon". Your writing will not improve if reading is a chore.
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Short answer: J.K. Rowling has never read a fantasy book in her life, and she did just fine. For that matter, J.R.R. Tolkien hadn't read much fantasy either.
Long answer: who considers the books on your list "best" in their genre? I haven't heard anything other than ridicule for Wheel of Time and Shannara, and I'm not too fond of Harry Potter either (nothing"obvious" about liking that series). The Lord of the Rings is for me a life-changing classic on par with Hemingway, but then a lot of people don't enjoy reading Hemingway. People are different in their likes and dislikes.
Be analytical in your reading: if you like a book, what is it about it that makes it "work" for you? If you don't like it, what "doesn't work"? @Weathervane gives a good explanation on this. Any book has its strengths and weaknesses. Try to find those in the books you are reading, learn from the strengths, avoid the weaknesses. If you fear that you're "missing something", it might be enlightening to talk to someone who liked those books: maybe you did miss something, maybe it's they who missed some problems, and maybe it's just that they weigh the relative strengths and weaknesses of the book differently from you.
J.R.R. Tolkien wrote the book he wanted to read, because it had not been written yet. So can you, if you find out what it is that you want to read, and what it is that makes you turn away from a book.
add a comment |
Short answer: J.K. Rowling has never read a fantasy book in her life, and she did just fine. For that matter, J.R.R. Tolkien hadn't read much fantasy either.
Long answer: who considers the books on your list "best" in their genre? I haven't heard anything other than ridicule for Wheel of Time and Shannara, and I'm not too fond of Harry Potter either (nothing"obvious" about liking that series). The Lord of the Rings is for me a life-changing classic on par with Hemingway, but then a lot of people don't enjoy reading Hemingway. People are different in their likes and dislikes.
Be analytical in your reading: if you like a book, what is it about it that makes it "work" for you? If you don't like it, what "doesn't work"? @Weathervane gives a good explanation on this. Any book has its strengths and weaknesses. Try to find those in the books you are reading, learn from the strengths, avoid the weaknesses. If you fear that you're "missing something", it might be enlightening to talk to someone who liked those books: maybe you did miss something, maybe it's they who missed some problems, and maybe it's just that they weigh the relative strengths and weaknesses of the book differently from you.
J.R.R. Tolkien wrote the book he wanted to read, because it had not been written yet. So can you, if you find out what it is that you want to read, and what it is that makes you turn away from a book.
add a comment |
Short answer: J.K. Rowling has never read a fantasy book in her life, and she did just fine. For that matter, J.R.R. Tolkien hadn't read much fantasy either.
Long answer: who considers the books on your list "best" in their genre? I haven't heard anything other than ridicule for Wheel of Time and Shannara, and I'm not too fond of Harry Potter either (nothing"obvious" about liking that series). The Lord of the Rings is for me a life-changing classic on par with Hemingway, but then a lot of people don't enjoy reading Hemingway. People are different in their likes and dislikes.
Be analytical in your reading: if you like a book, what is it about it that makes it "work" for you? If you don't like it, what "doesn't work"? @Weathervane gives a good explanation on this. Any book has its strengths and weaknesses. Try to find those in the books you are reading, learn from the strengths, avoid the weaknesses. If you fear that you're "missing something", it might be enlightening to talk to someone who liked those books: maybe you did miss something, maybe it's they who missed some problems, and maybe it's just that they weigh the relative strengths and weaknesses of the book differently from you.
J.R.R. Tolkien wrote the book he wanted to read, because it had not been written yet. So can you, if you find out what it is that you want to read, and what it is that makes you turn away from a book.
Short answer: J.K. Rowling has never read a fantasy book in her life, and she did just fine. For that matter, J.R.R. Tolkien hadn't read much fantasy either.
Long answer: who considers the books on your list "best" in their genre? I haven't heard anything other than ridicule for Wheel of Time and Shannara, and I'm not too fond of Harry Potter either (nothing"obvious" about liking that series). The Lord of the Rings is for me a life-changing classic on par with Hemingway, but then a lot of people don't enjoy reading Hemingway. People are different in their likes and dislikes.
Be analytical in your reading: if you like a book, what is it about it that makes it "work" for you? If you don't like it, what "doesn't work"? @Weathervane gives a good explanation on this. Any book has its strengths and weaknesses. Try to find those in the books you are reading, learn from the strengths, avoid the weaknesses. If you fear that you're "missing something", it might be enlightening to talk to someone who liked those books: maybe you did miss something, maybe it's they who missed some problems, and maybe it's just that they weigh the relative strengths and weaknesses of the book differently from you.
J.R.R. Tolkien wrote the book he wanted to read, because it had not been written yet. So can you, if you find out what it is that you want to read, and what it is that makes you turn away from a book.
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I notice the books you don't like you consider "too long", "too long for something to happen", "too boring"...
Despite you saying you like characters, longer books without much happening are likely character-driven; i.e. there is less plot and more character development.
There actually isn't a lot of character development in Harry Potter, it is much more of a mystery/action series than a character-driven series. Just like Sherlock Holmes was an interesting character, but not a well-developed character; we watch Sherlock through the window called Dr. Watson, we don't know what Sherlock feels like or what it feels like to be Sherlock. We watch Sherlock like we watch a stage magician; we don't read Sherlock as if we are Sherlock, we don't see his uncertainties or insecurities or regrets or guilt or inadequacies, or even how he feels about his drug addiction (just that he dismisses it as an issue).
You don't have to love character-intimate fiction; but it sells very well. So does mystery/action, so does horror. If you can be more specific about what you don't like in the stories you wouldn't read again, which passages or scenes you don't like or are uncomfortable with and which you do like, then you will go a long way toward defining the type of story you like and would like to write.
I agree with Galastel; there is absolutely nothing obvious about liking Harry Potter. JK Rowling is technically not a great writer. She gets an A for plotting and writing a mystery, an A+ at pleasing young adults, an A+ for imagination, but only a C for writing. This is probably why "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone" was rejected 12 times.
You will become a better writer if you use some analytic skill to figure out why you like some books and why you dislike other books. That is how you learn who your audience is, and what you want to avoid writing about, and what you need to fill the pages with instead. Perhaps you just want action or physical conflict or more danger every dozen pages, or continuous mystery and clues, or more comedy, or more new magic every few pages.
There is nothing wrong with not liking some fantasy; but there is something wrong with not bothering to understand why you don't like it. If you aspire to be a professional, you will take the time to understand. It will improve your writing.
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I notice the books you don't like you consider "too long", "too long for something to happen", "too boring"...
Despite you saying you like characters, longer books without much happening are likely character-driven; i.e. there is less plot and more character development.
There actually isn't a lot of character development in Harry Potter, it is much more of a mystery/action series than a character-driven series. Just like Sherlock Holmes was an interesting character, but not a well-developed character; we watch Sherlock through the window called Dr. Watson, we don't know what Sherlock feels like or what it feels like to be Sherlock. We watch Sherlock like we watch a stage magician; we don't read Sherlock as if we are Sherlock, we don't see his uncertainties or insecurities or regrets or guilt or inadequacies, or even how he feels about his drug addiction (just that he dismisses it as an issue).
You don't have to love character-intimate fiction; but it sells very well. So does mystery/action, so does horror. If you can be more specific about what you don't like in the stories you wouldn't read again, which passages or scenes you don't like or are uncomfortable with and which you do like, then you will go a long way toward defining the type of story you like and would like to write.
I agree with Galastel; there is absolutely nothing obvious about liking Harry Potter. JK Rowling is technically not a great writer. She gets an A for plotting and writing a mystery, an A+ at pleasing young adults, an A+ for imagination, but only a C for writing. This is probably why "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone" was rejected 12 times.
You will become a better writer if you use some analytic skill to figure out why you like some books and why you dislike other books. That is how you learn who your audience is, and what you want to avoid writing about, and what you need to fill the pages with instead. Perhaps you just want action or physical conflict or more danger every dozen pages, or continuous mystery and clues, or more comedy, or more new magic every few pages.
There is nothing wrong with not liking some fantasy; but there is something wrong with not bothering to understand why you don't like it. If you aspire to be a professional, you will take the time to understand. It will improve your writing.
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I notice the books you don't like you consider "too long", "too long for something to happen", "too boring"...
Despite you saying you like characters, longer books without much happening are likely character-driven; i.e. there is less plot and more character development.
There actually isn't a lot of character development in Harry Potter, it is much more of a mystery/action series than a character-driven series. Just like Sherlock Holmes was an interesting character, but not a well-developed character; we watch Sherlock through the window called Dr. Watson, we don't know what Sherlock feels like or what it feels like to be Sherlock. We watch Sherlock like we watch a stage magician; we don't read Sherlock as if we are Sherlock, we don't see his uncertainties or insecurities or regrets or guilt or inadequacies, or even how he feels about his drug addiction (just that he dismisses it as an issue).
You don't have to love character-intimate fiction; but it sells very well. So does mystery/action, so does horror. If you can be more specific about what you don't like in the stories you wouldn't read again, which passages or scenes you don't like or are uncomfortable with and which you do like, then you will go a long way toward defining the type of story you like and would like to write.
I agree with Galastel; there is absolutely nothing obvious about liking Harry Potter. JK Rowling is technically not a great writer. She gets an A for plotting and writing a mystery, an A+ at pleasing young adults, an A+ for imagination, but only a C for writing. This is probably why "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone" was rejected 12 times.
You will become a better writer if you use some analytic skill to figure out why you like some books and why you dislike other books. That is how you learn who your audience is, and what you want to avoid writing about, and what you need to fill the pages with instead. Perhaps you just want action or physical conflict or more danger every dozen pages, or continuous mystery and clues, or more comedy, or more new magic every few pages.
There is nothing wrong with not liking some fantasy; but there is something wrong with not bothering to understand why you don't like it. If you aspire to be a professional, you will take the time to understand. It will improve your writing.
I notice the books you don't like you consider "too long", "too long for something to happen", "too boring"...
Despite you saying you like characters, longer books without much happening are likely character-driven; i.e. there is less plot and more character development.
There actually isn't a lot of character development in Harry Potter, it is much more of a mystery/action series than a character-driven series. Just like Sherlock Holmes was an interesting character, but not a well-developed character; we watch Sherlock through the window called Dr. Watson, we don't know what Sherlock feels like or what it feels like to be Sherlock. We watch Sherlock like we watch a stage magician; we don't read Sherlock as if we are Sherlock, we don't see his uncertainties or insecurities or regrets or guilt or inadequacies, or even how he feels about his drug addiction (just that he dismisses it as an issue).
You don't have to love character-intimate fiction; but it sells very well. So does mystery/action, so does horror. If you can be more specific about what you don't like in the stories you wouldn't read again, which passages or scenes you don't like or are uncomfortable with and which you do like, then you will go a long way toward defining the type of story you like and would like to write.
I agree with Galastel; there is absolutely nothing obvious about liking Harry Potter. JK Rowling is technically not a great writer. She gets an A for plotting and writing a mystery, an A+ at pleasing young adults, an A+ for imagination, but only a C for writing. This is probably why "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone" was rejected 12 times.
You will become a better writer if you use some analytic skill to figure out why you like some books and why you dislike other books. That is how you learn who your audience is, and what you want to avoid writing about, and what you need to fill the pages with instead. Perhaps you just want action or physical conflict or more danger every dozen pages, or continuous mystery and clues, or more comedy, or more new magic every few pages.
There is nothing wrong with not liking some fantasy; but there is something wrong with not bothering to understand why you don't like it. If you aspire to be a professional, you will take the time to understand. It will improve your writing.
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If you want to build your own software you must build your own
Hardware. -- Steve Jobs.
If you love stories, you must write your own stories.
There is no "BEST" story in this world..
I got into writing, because I love stories. And that love moves me to tell my own.
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If you want to build your own software you must build your own
Hardware. -- Steve Jobs.
If you love stories, you must write your own stories.
There is no "BEST" story in this world..
I got into writing, because I love stories. And that love moves me to tell my own.
New contributor
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If you want to build your own software you must build your own
Hardware. -- Steve Jobs.
If you love stories, you must write your own stories.
There is no "BEST" story in this world..
I got into writing, because I love stories. And that love moves me to tell my own.
New contributor
If you want to build your own software you must build your own
Hardware. -- Steve Jobs.
If you love stories, you must write your own stories.
There is no "BEST" story in this world..
I got into writing, because I love stories. And that love moves me to tell my own.
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I had a similar issue with a standardize story from genre. I'm writing a lot of Superhero-genre stories and one of the stories I hate is when the heroes friend or girlfreind or some other close relationship gets the Heroes Powers and the friend is upstaging the Hero and they have to fight. Hate those stories. It brings out traits that aren't oridinarily part of the characters in the worst way possible, it's always the same things.
So I made that story set up the entire focus of my first novel with one of my characters. The Superheroes girlfriend is caught in one the cross fire in a fight with a villain and ends up with her own powers (not a copy of his, but her own)... and she doesn't want to do it but he needs some help so she agrees to play superhero until it's not needed... and it turns out she's actually good at it... objectively too (can't get into the details about why, but suffice to say, his public image is a bit more controlled by him than her public image is.).
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I had a similar issue with a standardize story from genre. I'm writing a lot of Superhero-genre stories and one of the stories I hate is when the heroes friend or girlfreind or some other close relationship gets the Heroes Powers and the friend is upstaging the Hero and they have to fight. Hate those stories. It brings out traits that aren't oridinarily part of the characters in the worst way possible, it's always the same things.
So I made that story set up the entire focus of my first novel with one of my characters. The Superheroes girlfriend is caught in one the cross fire in a fight with a villain and ends up with her own powers (not a copy of his, but her own)... and she doesn't want to do it but he needs some help so she agrees to play superhero until it's not needed... and it turns out she's actually good at it... objectively too (can't get into the details about why, but suffice to say, his public image is a bit more controlled by him than her public image is.).
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I had a similar issue with a standardize story from genre. I'm writing a lot of Superhero-genre stories and one of the stories I hate is when the heroes friend or girlfreind or some other close relationship gets the Heroes Powers and the friend is upstaging the Hero and they have to fight. Hate those stories. It brings out traits that aren't oridinarily part of the characters in the worst way possible, it's always the same things.
So I made that story set up the entire focus of my first novel with one of my characters. The Superheroes girlfriend is caught in one the cross fire in a fight with a villain and ends up with her own powers (not a copy of his, but her own)... and she doesn't want to do it but he needs some help so she agrees to play superhero until it's not needed... and it turns out she's actually good at it... objectively too (can't get into the details about why, but suffice to say, his public image is a bit more controlled by him than her public image is.).
I had a similar issue with a standardize story from genre. I'm writing a lot of Superhero-genre stories and one of the stories I hate is when the heroes friend or girlfreind or some other close relationship gets the Heroes Powers and the friend is upstaging the Hero and they have to fight. Hate those stories. It brings out traits that aren't oridinarily part of the characters in the worst way possible, it's always the same things.
So I made that story set up the entire focus of my first novel with one of my characters. The Superheroes girlfriend is caught in one the cross fire in a fight with a villain and ends up with her own powers (not a copy of his, but her own)... and she doesn't want to do it but he needs some help so she agrees to play superhero until it's not needed... and it turns out she's actually good at it... objectively too (can't get into the details about why, but suffice to say, his public image is a bit more controlled by him than her public image is.).
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I think this would be better on Scifi and Fantasy SE.
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@eyeballfrog, I beg to differ. The question is about how reading habits and preferences influence writing. To my mind this is about preparing for writing, as the OP emphasises "learning something" from reading.
– Weathervane
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