Equivalence principle before Einstein
$begingroup$
In a German interview some physicists were asked, what they would ask Einstein, if he were alive today. One of them wanted to know how Einstein came up with the idea of the equivalence principle, that inertial mass is the same as gravitational mass. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always believed that was known way before Einstein. And I have an experiment in mind where one famous guy standing on a leaning tower and letting two things fall with different mass to test if gravity acts on every object the same.
My question is, does somebody know the name of this famous person, who conducted the experiment? I can't remember it.
untagged
$endgroup$
migrated from physics.stackexchange.com 6 hours ago
This question came from our site for active researchers, academics and students of physics.
add a comment |
$begingroup$
In a German interview some physicists were asked, what they would ask Einstein, if he were alive today. One of them wanted to know how Einstein came up with the idea of the equivalence principle, that inertial mass is the same as gravitational mass. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always believed that was known way before Einstein. And I have an experiment in mind where one famous guy standing on a leaning tower and letting two things fall with different mass to test if gravity acts on every object the same.
My question is, does somebody know the name of this famous person, who conducted the experiment? I can't remember it.
untagged
$endgroup$
migrated from physics.stackexchange.com 6 hours ago
This question came from our site for active researchers, academics and students of physics.
4
$begingroup$
Galileo Galilei, see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei
$endgroup$
– hyportnex
11 hours ago
3
$begingroup$
"And I have an experiment in mind where one famous guy standing on a church and letting two things fall with different mass to test if gravity acts on every object the same." I think you mean Galileo Galilei.
$endgroup$
– Gert
11 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's about the history of physics, not physics primarily.
$endgroup$
– Gert
11 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
In a German interview some physicists were asked, what they would ask Einstein, if he were alive today. One of them wanted to know how Einstein came up with the idea of the equivalence principle, that inertial mass is the same as gravitational mass. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always believed that was known way before Einstein. And I have an experiment in mind where one famous guy standing on a leaning tower and letting two things fall with different mass to test if gravity acts on every object the same.
My question is, does somebody know the name of this famous person, who conducted the experiment? I can't remember it.
untagged
$endgroup$
In a German interview some physicists were asked, what they would ask Einstein, if he were alive today. One of them wanted to know how Einstein came up with the idea of the equivalence principle, that inertial mass is the same as gravitational mass. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always believed that was known way before Einstein. And I have an experiment in mind where one famous guy standing on a leaning tower and letting two things fall with different mass to test if gravity acts on every object the same.
My question is, does somebody know the name of this famous person, who conducted the experiment? I can't remember it.
untagged
untagged
asked 11 hours ago
MaximMaxim
1263
1263
migrated from physics.stackexchange.com 6 hours ago
This question came from our site for active researchers, academics and students of physics.
migrated from physics.stackexchange.com 6 hours ago
This question came from our site for active researchers, academics and students of physics.
4
$begingroup$
Galileo Galilei, see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei
$endgroup$
– hyportnex
11 hours ago
3
$begingroup$
"And I have an experiment in mind where one famous guy standing on a church and letting two things fall with different mass to test if gravity acts on every object the same." I think you mean Galileo Galilei.
$endgroup$
– Gert
11 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's about the history of physics, not physics primarily.
$endgroup$
– Gert
11 hours ago
add a comment |
4
$begingroup$
Galileo Galilei, see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei
$endgroup$
– hyportnex
11 hours ago
3
$begingroup$
"And I have an experiment in mind where one famous guy standing on a church and letting two things fall with different mass to test if gravity acts on every object the same." I think you mean Galileo Galilei.
$endgroup$
– Gert
11 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's about the history of physics, not physics primarily.
$endgroup$
– Gert
11 hours ago
4
4
$begingroup$
Galileo Galilei, see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei
$endgroup$
– hyportnex
11 hours ago
$begingroup$
Galileo Galilei, see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei
$endgroup$
– hyportnex
11 hours ago
3
3
$begingroup$
"And I have an experiment in mind where one famous guy standing on a church and letting two things fall with different mass to test if gravity acts on every object the same." I think you mean Galileo Galilei.
$endgroup$
– Gert
11 hours ago
$begingroup$
"And I have an experiment in mind where one famous guy standing on a church and letting two things fall with different mass to test if gravity acts on every object the same." I think you mean Galileo Galilei.
$endgroup$
– Gert
11 hours ago
2
2
$begingroup$
I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's about the history of physics, not physics primarily.
$endgroup$
– Gert
11 hours ago
$begingroup$
I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's about the history of physics, not physics primarily.
$endgroup$
– Gert
11 hours ago
add a comment |
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
There are lots of different ways of stating the equivalence principle, and they're not all logically ... er ... equivalent to each other.
Names that come up in this connection, from before Einstein, are Galileo and Eotvos. Experiments that test the equality of gravitational and inertial mass are called Eotvos experiments.
Einstein's version of the equivalence principle is more radical than anything that Galileo or Newton envisioned. It entails throwing away the whole concept of a universal reference frame and instead defining inertial frames as local, free-falling frames. Previously, people had imagined that there was a frame of the "fixed stars," which was as good an approximation to an inertial frame as we would ever need. But according to relativity, observers in New York and Beijing can't even have the same frame of reference.
Taking the equivalence principle seriously also leads to the prediction of gravitational time dilation, which is something that nobody before Einstein had imagined.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
Your Answer
StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
});
});
}, "mathjax-editing");
StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "587"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);
StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});
function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: false,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: null,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});
}
});
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fhsm.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f8460%2fequivalence-principle-before-einstein%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
There are lots of different ways of stating the equivalence principle, and they're not all logically ... er ... equivalent to each other.
Names that come up in this connection, from before Einstein, are Galileo and Eotvos. Experiments that test the equality of gravitational and inertial mass are called Eotvos experiments.
Einstein's version of the equivalence principle is more radical than anything that Galileo or Newton envisioned. It entails throwing away the whole concept of a universal reference frame and instead defining inertial frames as local, free-falling frames. Previously, people had imagined that there was a frame of the "fixed stars," which was as good an approximation to an inertial frame as we would ever need. But according to relativity, observers in New York and Beijing can't even have the same frame of reference.
Taking the equivalence principle seriously also leads to the prediction of gravitational time dilation, which is something that nobody before Einstein had imagined.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
There are lots of different ways of stating the equivalence principle, and they're not all logically ... er ... equivalent to each other.
Names that come up in this connection, from before Einstein, are Galileo and Eotvos. Experiments that test the equality of gravitational and inertial mass are called Eotvos experiments.
Einstein's version of the equivalence principle is more radical than anything that Galileo or Newton envisioned. It entails throwing away the whole concept of a universal reference frame and instead defining inertial frames as local, free-falling frames. Previously, people had imagined that there was a frame of the "fixed stars," which was as good an approximation to an inertial frame as we would ever need. But according to relativity, observers in New York and Beijing can't even have the same frame of reference.
Taking the equivalence principle seriously also leads to the prediction of gravitational time dilation, which is something that nobody before Einstein had imagined.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
There are lots of different ways of stating the equivalence principle, and they're not all logically ... er ... equivalent to each other.
Names that come up in this connection, from before Einstein, are Galileo and Eotvos. Experiments that test the equality of gravitational and inertial mass are called Eotvos experiments.
Einstein's version of the equivalence principle is more radical than anything that Galileo or Newton envisioned. It entails throwing away the whole concept of a universal reference frame and instead defining inertial frames as local, free-falling frames. Previously, people had imagined that there was a frame of the "fixed stars," which was as good an approximation to an inertial frame as we would ever need. But according to relativity, observers in New York and Beijing can't even have the same frame of reference.
Taking the equivalence principle seriously also leads to the prediction of gravitational time dilation, which is something that nobody before Einstein had imagined.
$endgroup$
There are lots of different ways of stating the equivalence principle, and they're not all logically ... er ... equivalent to each other.
Names that come up in this connection, from before Einstein, are Galileo and Eotvos. Experiments that test the equality of gravitational and inertial mass are called Eotvos experiments.
Einstein's version of the equivalence principle is more radical than anything that Galileo or Newton envisioned. It entails throwing away the whole concept of a universal reference frame and instead defining inertial frames as local, free-falling frames. Previously, people had imagined that there was a frame of the "fixed stars," which was as good an approximation to an inertial frame as we would ever need. But according to relativity, observers in New York and Beijing can't even have the same frame of reference.
Taking the equivalence principle seriously also leads to the prediction of gravitational time dilation, which is something that nobody before Einstein had imagined.
answered 11 hours ago
Ben CrowellBen Crowell
1,691824
1,691824
add a comment |
add a comment |
Thanks for contributing an answer to History of Science and Mathematics Stack Exchange!
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fhsm.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f8460%2fequivalence-principle-before-einstein%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
4
$begingroup$
Galileo Galilei, see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei
$endgroup$
– hyportnex
11 hours ago
3
$begingroup$
"And I have an experiment in mind where one famous guy standing on a church and letting two things fall with different mass to test if gravity acts on every object the same." I think you mean Galileo Galilei.
$endgroup$
– Gert
11 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's about the history of physics, not physics primarily.
$endgroup$
– Gert
11 hours ago