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Does there exist a closed set which is an intersection of a collection of infinite open sets?
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Does there exist a closed set which is an intersection of a collection of infinite open sets?
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Intersect $(-tfrac{1}{n}, tfrac{1}{n})$ for $n = 1, 2, ldots$ and consider what set you get
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– Brevan Ellefsen
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Oh it will get ${0}$
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Does there exist a closed set which is an intersection of a collection of infinite open sets?
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Does there exist a closed set which is an intersection of a collection of infinite open sets?
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Intersect $(-tfrac{1}{n}, tfrac{1}{n})$ for $n = 1, 2, ldots$ and consider what set you get
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– Brevan Ellefsen
1 hour ago
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Oh it will get ${0}$
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– Tony Tong
59 mins ago
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5
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Intersect $(-tfrac{1}{n}, tfrac{1}{n})$ for $n = 1, 2, ldots$ and consider what set you get
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– Brevan Ellefsen
1 hour ago
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Oh it will get ${0}$
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– Tony Tong
59 mins ago
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Intersect $(-tfrac{1}{n}, tfrac{1}{n})$ for $n = 1, 2, ldots$ and consider what set you get
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– Brevan Ellefsen
1 hour ago
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Intersect $(-tfrac{1}{n}, tfrac{1}{n})$ for $n = 1, 2, ldots$ and consider what set you get
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– Brevan Ellefsen
1 hour ago
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Oh it will get ${0}$
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– Tony Tong
59 mins ago
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Oh it will get ${0}$
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$$mathbb{R}capmathbb{R}capmathbb{R}capcdots$$
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But R is an open set, the intersection is also R so it is still an open set
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– Tony Tong
1 hour ago
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And also closed
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– Keen-ameteur
1 hour ago
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While extremely simple, this example has the unfortunate side effect of also being open, which could further confound the OP who seems to be wondering why the intersection of open sets is not open in general (admittedly, the OP is probably also drawing a false dichotomy between open and closed sets, so I suppose this helps with that)
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– Brevan Ellefsen
57 mins ago
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@BrevanEllefsen: +1, but I couldn't resist... :-)
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– parsiad
57 mins ago
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(+1) That's a bad answer from the pedagogical point of view… but it's really funny too!
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$$mathbb{R}capmathbb{R}capmathbb{R}capcdots$$
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But R is an open set, the intersection is also R so it is still an open set
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– Tony Tong
1 hour ago
1
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And also closed
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– Keen-ameteur
1 hour ago
1
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While extremely simple, this example has the unfortunate side effect of also being open, which could further confound the OP who seems to be wondering why the intersection of open sets is not open in general (admittedly, the OP is probably also drawing a false dichotomy between open and closed sets, so I suppose this helps with that)
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– Brevan Ellefsen
57 mins ago
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@BrevanEllefsen: +1, but I couldn't resist... :-)
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– parsiad
57 mins ago
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(+1) That's a bad answer from the pedagogical point of view… but it's really funny too!
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– José Carlos Santos
41 secs ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
$$mathbb{R}capmathbb{R}capmathbb{R}capcdots$$
$endgroup$
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But R is an open set, the intersection is also R so it is still an open set
$endgroup$
– Tony Tong
1 hour ago
1
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And also closed
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– Keen-ameteur
1 hour ago
1
$begingroup$
While extremely simple, this example has the unfortunate side effect of also being open, which could further confound the OP who seems to be wondering why the intersection of open sets is not open in general (admittedly, the OP is probably also drawing a false dichotomy between open and closed sets, so I suppose this helps with that)
$endgroup$
– Brevan Ellefsen
57 mins ago
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@BrevanEllefsen: +1, but I couldn't resist... :-)
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– parsiad
57 mins ago
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(+1) That's a bad answer from the pedagogical point of view… but it's really funny too!
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– José Carlos Santos
41 secs ago
add a comment |
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$$mathbb{R}capmathbb{R}capmathbb{R}capcdots$$
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$$mathbb{R}capmathbb{R}capmathbb{R}capcdots$$
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But R is an open set, the intersection is also R so it is still an open set
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– Tony Tong
1 hour ago
1
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And also closed
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– Keen-ameteur
1 hour ago
1
$begingroup$
While extremely simple, this example has the unfortunate side effect of also being open, which could further confound the OP who seems to be wondering why the intersection of open sets is not open in general (admittedly, the OP is probably also drawing a false dichotomy between open and closed sets, so I suppose this helps with that)
$endgroup$
– Brevan Ellefsen
57 mins ago
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@BrevanEllefsen: +1, but I couldn't resist... :-)
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– parsiad
57 mins ago
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(+1) That's a bad answer from the pedagogical point of view… but it's really funny too!
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– José Carlos Santos
41 secs ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
But R is an open set, the intersection is also R so it is still an open set
$endgroup$
– Tony Tong
1 hour ago
1
$begingroup$
And also closed
$endgroup$
– Keen-ameteur
1 hour ago
1
$begingroup$
While extremely simple, this example has the unfortunate side effect of also being open, which could further confound the OP who seems to be wondering why the intersection of open sets is not open in general (admittedly, the OP is probably also drawing a false dichotomy between open and closed sets, so I suppose this helps with that)
$endgroup$
– Brevan Ellefsen
57 mins ago
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@BrevanEllefsen: +1, but I couldn't resist... :-)
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– parsiad
57 mins ago
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(+1) That's a bad answer from the pedagogical point of view… but it's really funny too!
$endgroup$
– José Carlos Santos
41 secs ago
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But R is an open set, the intersection is also R so it is still an open set
$endgroup$
– Tony Tong
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
But R is an open set, the intersection is also R so it is still an open set
$endgroup$
– Tony Tong
1 hour ago
1
1
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And also closed
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– Keen-ameteur
1 hour ago
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And also closed
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– Keen-ameteur
1 hour ago
1
1
$begingroup$
While extremely simple, this example has the unfortunate side effect of also being open, which could further confound the OP who seems to be wondering why the intersection of open sets is not open in general (admittedly, the OP is probably also drawing a false dichotomy between open and closed sets, so I suppose this helps with that)
$endgroup$
– Brevan Ellefsen
57 mins ago
$begingroup$
While extremely simple, this example has the unfortunate side effect of also being open, which could further confound the OP who seems to be wondering why the intersection of open sets is not open in general (admittedly, the OP is probably also drawing a false dichotomy between open and closed sets, so I suppose this helps with that)
$endgroup$
– Brevan Ellefsen
57 mins ago
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@BrevanEllefsen: +1, but I couldn't resist... :-)
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– parsiad
57 mins ago
$begingroup$
@BrevanEllefsen: +1, but I couldn't resist... :-)
$endgroup$
– parsiad
57 mins ago
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(+1) That's a bad answer from the pedagogical point of view… but it's really funny too!
$endgroup$
– José Carlos Santos
41 secs ago
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(+1) That's a bad answer from the pedagogical point of view… but it's really funny too!
$endgroup$
– José Carlos Santos
41 secs ago
add a comment |
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$begingroup$
Intersect $(-tfrac{1}{n}, tfrac{1}{n})$ for $n = 1, 2, ldots$ and consider what set you get
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– Brevan Ellefsen
1 hour ago
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Oh it will get ${0}$
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– Tony Tong
59 mins ago