How do I split my modem connection into a router and an additional ethernet output?












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I have my cable modem in one room. I have a ethernet wire going through the wall connecting to the router. I have an Office I want to run an ethernet cable to, which would be pretty easy to do if I can run the wire to the room w/ the cable modem. Unfortunately I can't run a wire from my router to the Office.



Is this possible with a splitter or switch or some other device?



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    Unless you move the router to be near the cable modern, I don’t see how this can happen.

    – JakeGould
    3 hours ago











  • Why do you care where the router is? What's preventing you from moving it to where the cable modem is? Is it WiFi coverage? Needing wired ports there? Or what?

    – David Schwartz
    3 hours ago











  • Seems like a simple solution would be to buy a new router and put it in the room with the modem.

    – Scott
    3 hours ago











  • @DavidSchwartz -yes, the router is in a good central location now. Diagram is not to scale

    – joel
    3 hours ago











  • @joel Central for WiFi? Central for wired? Both?

    – David Schwartz
    3 hours ago
















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I have my cable modem in one room. I have a ethernet wire going through the wall connecting to the router. I have an Office I want to run an ethernet cable to, which would be pretty easy to do if I can run the wire to the room w/ the cable modem. Unfortunately I can't run a wire from my router to the Office.



Is this possible with a splitter or switch or some other device?



Hopefully the image helps:



Diagram of desired layout










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    Unless you move the router to be near the cable modern, I don’t see how this can happen.

    – JakeGould
    3 hours ago











  • Why do you care where the router is? What's preventing you from moving it to where the cable modem is? Is it WiFi coverage? Needing wired ports there? Or what?

    – David Schwartz
    3 hours ago











  • Seems like a simple solution would be to buy a new router and put it in the room with the modem.

    – Scott
    3 hours ago











  • @DavidSchwartz -yes, the router is in a good central location now. Diagram is not to scale

    – joel
    3 hours ago











  • @joel Central for WiFi? Central for wired? Both?

    – David Schwartz
    3 hours ago














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I have my cable modem in one room. I have a ethernet wire going through the wall connecting to the router. I have an Office I want to run an ethernet cable to, which would be pretty easy to do if I can run the wire to the room w/ the cable modem. Unfortunately I can't run a wire from my router to the Office.



Is this possible with a splitter or switch or some other device?



Hopefully the image helps:



Diagram of desired layout










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I have my cable modem in one room. I have a ethernet wire going through the wall connecting to the router. I have an Office I want to run an ethernet cable to, which would be pretty easy to do if I can run the wire to the room w/ the cable modem. Unfortunately I can't run a wire from my router to the Office.



Is this possible with a splitter or switch or some other device?



Hopefully the image helps:



Diagram of desired layout







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    Unless you move the router to be near the cable modern, I don’t see how this can happen.

    – JakeGould
    3 hours ago











  • Why do you care where the router is? What's preventing you from moving it to where the cable modem is? Is it WiFi coverage? Needing wired ports there? Or what?

    – David Schwartz
    3 hours ago











  • Seems like a simple solution would be to buy a new router and put it in the room with the modem.

    – Scott
    3 hours ago











  • @DavidSchwartz -yes, the router is in a good central location now. Diagram is not to scale

    – joel
    3 hours ago











  • @joel Central for WiFi? Central for wired? Both?

    – David Schwartz
    3 hours ago














  • 1





    Unless you move the router to be near the cable modern, I don’t see how this can happen.

    – JakeGould
    3 hours ago











  • Why do you care where the router is? What's preventing you from moving it to where the cable modem is? Is it WiFi coverage? Needing wired ports there? Or what?

    – David Schwartz
    3 hours ago











  • Seems like a simple solution would be to buy a new router and put it in the room with the modem.

    – Scott
    3 hours ago











  • @DavidSchwartz -yes, the router is in a good central location now. Diagram is not to scale

    – joel
    3 hours ago











  • @joel Central for WiFi? Central for wired? Both?

    – David Schwartz
    3 hours ago








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Unless you move the router to be near the cable modern, I don’t see how this can happen.

– JakeGould
3 hours ago





Unless you move the router to be near the cable modern, I don’t see how this can happen.

– JakeGould
3 hours ago













Why do you care where the router is? What's preventing you from moving it to where the cable modem is? Is it WiFi coverage? Needing wired ports there? Or what?

– David Schwartz
3 hours ago





Why do you care where the router is? What's preventing you from moving it to where the cable modem is? Is it WiFi coverage? Needing wired ports there? Or what?

– David Schwartz
3 hours ago













Seems like a simple solution would be to buy a new router and put it in the room with the modem.

– Scott
3 hours ago





Seems like a simple solution would be to buy a new router and put it in the room with the modem.

– Scott
3 hours ago













@DavidSchwartz -yes, the router is in a good central location now. Diagram is not to scale

– joel
3 hours ago





@DavidSchwartz -yes, the router is in a good central location now. Diagram is not to scale

– joel
3 hours ago













@joel Central for WiFi? Central for wired? Both?

– David Schwartz
3 hours ago





@joel Central for WiFi? Central for wired? Both?

– David Schwartz
3 hours ago










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The easiest option will be to move the router to where the modem is and put a switch where the router was by your TV and use the existing cable between the current modem and router setup to connect the router and switch. Then you can run a cable from the office to your router. If WiFi will be an issue with the change, you can add a wireless access point to your switch as well. If you add a access point, have the name and security settings be the same as your router.






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    You can also use a second router as a combination switch and access point. Just don't use its WAN port and disable its DHCP server. Assign it an IP address inside the main router's LAN IP block but outside its DHCP range.

    – David Schwartz
    3 hours ago













  • Of course. I was going the easiest route with the least amount of configuration needed.

    – HazardousGlitch
    3 hours ago











  • OK, thanks. My only question is how would I add a wireless access point to the switch? Do you have a hardware recommendation for a wireless access point? The extender is OK but it's kind of annoying having to switch to the _EXT connection

    – joel
    3 hours ago






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    Do not use a wireless extender. Just use either an access point or a second router acting as a switch and access point. You can use pretty much any router with the choice depending on your budget, port requirements, and WiFi requirements. For example, an Archer C50 (my first hit googling "cheap dual band router") is about $40 and would give you dual band WiFi and three wired ports (because you can't use the WAN port and need to use one port to connect to the main router).

    – David Schwartz
    2 hours ago













  • I'm not sure what you mean by _EXT connection.

    – HazardousGlitch
    2 hours ago



















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All cable modems in my experience will, on the user-accessible Ethernet-port side, only talk to the first device that connects to it or that responds to it. They will ignore all other devices until a reboot.



So even if you physically connect more than one device to the Ethernet port of a cable modem, which is possible if you use an Ethernet switch, it won't work.



FYI most routers have a built in Ethernet switch with ports labeled LAN 1,2,3,4. Some cable modems have built in routers and 4-port switches.



You can do this:




  • Move existing router next to cable modem (call this the first router).

  • Disable wireless on this router.

  • Obtain a second router and configure like so:


    • Connect nothing to second router's WAN port.

    • Assign router IP in same subnet as first router, with an IP that won't get affected by first router's DHCP range.

    • Connect LAN port of first router to LAN port of second router.

    • Disable DHCP on second router.

    • Disable routing on this second router (you want only the wireless) if this is possible.

    • Configure wireless as you like on second router.

    • If you have wired devices near where you want the wireless to originate from, you can still connect them to the LAN ports of the second router, and it will work.




I have a similar setup, the "second router" in my case is an Asus RT-AC56U (256MB dual core unit with a big heatsink over the chipset, running OpenWRT derivative) which has a convenient "Access Point" setting that didn't require messing with a lot of settings after the fact. Any router with wireless that can be configured above should work though.






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    Why disable wireless on the first router?

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The easiest option will be to move the router to where the modem is and put a switch where the router was by your TV and use the existing cable between the current modem and router setup to connect the router and switch. Then you can run a cable from the office to your router. If WiFi will be an issue with the change, you can add a wireless access point to your switch as well. If you add a access point, have the name and security settings be the same as your router.






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  • 1





    You can also use a second router as a combination switch and access point. Just don't use its WAN port and disable its DHCP server. Assign it an IP address inside the main router's LAN IP block but outside its DHCP range.

    – David Schwartz
    3 hours ago













  • Of course. I was going the easiest route with the least amount of configuration needed.

    – HazardousGlitch
    3 hours ago











  • OK, thanks. My only question is how would I add a wireless access point to the switch? Do you have a hardware recommendation for a wireless access point? The extender is OK but it's kind of annoying having to switch to the _EXT connection

    – joel
    3 hours ago






  • 1





    Do not use a wireless extender. Just use either an access point or a second router acting as a switch and access point. You can use pretty much any router with the choice depending on your budget, port requirements, and WiFi requirements. For example, an Archer C50 (my first hit googling "cheap dual band router") is about $40 and would give you dual band WiFi and three wired ports (because you can't use the WAN port and need to use one port to connect to the main router).

    – David Schwartz
    2 hours ago













  • I'm not sure what you mean by _EXT connection.

    – HazardousGlitch
    2 hours ago
















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The easiest option will be to move the router to where the modem is and put a switch where the router was by your TV and use the existing cable between the current modem and router setup to connect the router and switch. Then you can run a cable from the office to your router. If WiFi will be an issue with the change, you can add a wireless access point to your switch as well. If you add a access point, have the name and security settings be the same as your router.






share|improve this answer





















  • 1





    You can also use a second router as a combination switch and access point. Just don't use its WAN port and disable its DHCP server. Assign it an IP address inside the main router's LAN IP block but outside its DHCP range.

    – David Schwartz
    3 hours ago













  • Of course. I was going the easiest route with the least amount of configuration needed.

    – HazardousGlitch
    3 hours ago











  • OK, thanks. My only question is how would I add a wireless access point to the switch? Do you have a hardware recommendation for a wireless access point? The extender is OK but it's kind of annoying having to switch to the _EXT connection

    – joel
    3 hours ago






  • 1





    Do not use a wireless extender. Just use either an access point or a second router acting as a switch and access point. You can use pretty much any router with the choice depending on your budget, port requirements, and WiFi requirements. For example, an Archer C50 (my first hit googling "cheap dual band router") is about $40 and would give you dual band WiFi and three wired ports (because you can't use the WAN port and need to use one port to connect to the main router).

    – David Schwartz
    2 hours ago













  • I'm not sure what you mean by _EXT connection.

    – HazardousGlitch
    2 hours ago














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The easiest option will be to move the router to where the modem is and put a switch where the router was by your TV and use the existing cable between the current modem and router setup to connect the router and switch. Then you can run a cable from the office to your router. If WiFi will be an issue with the change, you can add a wireless access point to your switch as well. If you add a access point, have the name and security settings be the same as your router.






share|improve this answer















The easiest option will be to move the router to where the modem is and put a switch where the router was by your TV and use the existing cable between the current modem and router setup to connect the router and switch. Then you can run a cable from the office to your router. If WiFi will be an issue with the change, you can add a wireless access point to your switch as well. If you add a access point, have the name and security settings be the same as your router.







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    You can also use a second router as a combination switch and access point. Just don't use its WAN port and disable its DHCP server. Assign it an IP address inside the main router's LAN IP block but outside its DHCP range.

    – David Schwartz
    3 hours ago













  • Of course. I was going the easiest route with the least amount of configuration needed.

    – HazardousGlitch
    3 hours ago











  • OK, thanks. My only question is how would I add a wireless access point to the switch? Do you have a hardware recommendation for a wireless access point? The extender is OK but it's kind of annoying having to switch to the _EXT connection

    – joel
    3 hours ago






  • 1





    Do not use a wireless extender. Just use either an access point or a second router acting as a switch and access point. You can use pretty much any router with the choice depending on your budget, port requirements, and WiFi requirements. For example, an Archer C50 (my first hit googling "cheap dual band router") is about $40 and would give you dual band WiFi and three wired ports (because you can't use the WAN port and need to use one port to connect to the main router).

    – David Schwartz
    2 hours ago













  • I'm not sure what you mean by _EXT connection.

    – HazardousGlitch
    2 hours ago














  • 1





    You can also use a second router as a combination switch and access point. Just don't use its WAN port and disable its DHCP server. Assign it an IP address inside the main router's LAN IP block but outside its DHCP range.

    – David Schwartz
    3 hours ago













  • Of course. I was going the easiest route with the least amount of configuration needed.

    – HazardousGlitch
    3 hours ago











  • OK, thanks. My only question is how would I add a wireless access point to the switch? Do you have a hardware recommendation for a wireless access point? The extender is OK but it's kind of annoying having to switch to the _EXT connection

    – joel
    3 hours ago






  • 1





    Do not use a wireless extender. Just use either an access point or a second router acting as a switch and access point. You can use pretty much any router with the choice depending on your budget, port requirements, and WiFi requirements. For example, an Archer C50 (my first hit googling "cheap dual band router") is about $40 and would give you dual band WiFi and three wired ports (because you can't use the WAN port and need to use one port to connect to the main router).

    – David Schwartz
    2 hours ago













  • I'm not sure what you mean by _EXT connection.

    – HazardousGlitch
    2 hours ago








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You can also use a second router as a combination switch and access point. Just don't use its WAN port and disable its DHCP server. Assign it an IP address inside the main router's LAN IP block but outside its DHCP range.

– David Schwartz
3 hours ago







You can also use a second router as a combination switch and access point. Just don't use its WAN port and disable its DHCP server. Assign it an IP address inside the main router's LAN IP block but outside its DHCP range.

– David Schwartz
3 hours ago















Of course. I was going the easiest route with the least amount of configuration needed.

– HazardousGlitch
3 hours ago





Of course. I was going the easiest route with the least amount of configuration needed.

– HazardousGlitch
3 hours ago













OK, thanks. My only question is how would I add a wireless access point to the switch? Do you have a hardware recommendation for a wireless access point? The extender is OK but it's kind of annoying having to switch to the _EXT connection

– joel
3 hours ago





OK, thanks. My only question is how would I add a wireless access point to the switch? Do you have a hardware recommendation for a wireless access point? The extender is OK but it's kind of annoying having to switch to the _EXT connection

– joel
3 hours ago




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Do not use a wireless extender. Just use either an access point or a second router acting as a switch and access point. You can use pretty much any router with the choice depending on your budget, port requirements, and WiFi requirements. For example, an Archer C50 (my first hit googling "cheap dual band router") is about $40 and would give you dual band WiFi and three wired ports (because you can't use the WAN port and need to use one port to connect to the main router).

– David Schwartz
2 hours ago







Do not use a wireless extender. Just use either an access point or a second router acting as a switch and access point. You can use pretty much any router with the choice depending on your budget, port requirements, and WiFi requirements. For example, an Archer C50 (my first hit googling "cheap dual band router") is about $40 and would give you dual band WiFi and three wired ports (because you can't use the WAN port and need to use one port to connect to the main router).

– David Schwartz
2 hours ago















I'm not sure what you mean by _EXT connection.

– HazardousGlitch
2 hours ago





I'm not sure what you mean by _EXT connection.

– HazardousGlitch
2 hours ago













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All cable modems in my experience will, on the user-accessible Ethernet-port side, only talk to the first device that connects to it or that responds to it. They will ignore all other devices until a reboot.



So even if you physically connect more than one device to the Ethernet port of a cable modem, which is possible if you use an Ethernet switch, it won't work.



FYI most routers have a built in Ethernet switch with ports labeled LAN 1,2,3,4. Some cable modems have built in routers and 4-port switches.



You can do this:




  • Move existing router next to cable modem (call this the first router).

  • Disable wireless on this router.

  • Obtain a second router and configure like so:


    • Connect nothing to second router's WAN port.

    • Assign router IP in same subnet as first router, with an IP that won't get affected by first router's DHCP range.

    • Connect LAN port of first router to LAN port of second router.

    • Disable DHCP on second router.

    • Disable routing on this second router (you want only the wireless) if this is possible.

    • Configure wireless as you like on second router.

    • If you have wired devices near where you want the wireless to originate from, you can still connect them to the LAN ports of the second router, and it will work.




I have a similar setup, the "second router" in my case is an Asus RT-AC56U (256MB dual core unit with a big heatsink over the chipset, running OpenWRT derivative) which has a convenient "Access Point" setting that didn't require messing with a lot of settings after the fact. Any router with wireless that can be configured above should work though.






share|improve this answer





















  • 1





    Why disable wireless on the first router?

    – David Schwartz
    3 hours ago
















1














All cable modems in my experience will, on the user-accessible Ethernet-port side, only talk to the first device that connects to it or that responds to it. They will ignore all other devices until a reboot.



So even if you physically connect more than one device to the Ethernet port of a cable modem, which is possible if you use an Ethernet switch, it won't work.



FYI most routers have a built in Ethernet switch with ports labeled LAN 1,2,3,4. Some cable modems have built in routers and 4-port switches.



You can do this:




  • Move existing router next to cable modem (call this the first router).

  • Disable wireless on this router.

  • Obtain a second router and configure like so:


    • Connect nothing to second router's WAN port.

    • Assign router IP in same subnet as first router, with an IP that won't get affected by first router's DHCP range.

    • Connect LAN port of first router to LAN port of second router.

    • Disable DHCP on second router.

    • Disable routing on this second router (you want only the wireless) if this is possible.

    • Configure wireless as you like on second router.

    • If you have wired devices near where you want the wireless to originate from, you can still connect them to the LAN ports of the second router, and it will work.




I have a similar setup, the "second router" in my case is an Asus RT-AC56U (256MB dual core unit with a big heatsink over the chipset, running OpenWRT derivative) which has a convenient "Access Point" setting that didn't require messing with a lot of settings after the fact. Any router with wireless that can be configured above should work though.






share|improve this answer





















  • 1





    Why disable wireless on the first router?

    – David Schwartz
    3 hours ago














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1








1







All cable modems in my experience will, on the user-accessible Ethernet-port side, only talk to the first device that connects to it or that responds to it. They will ignore all other devices until a reboot.



So even if you physically connect more than one device to the Ethernet port of a cable modem, which is possible if you use an Ethernet switch, it won't work.



FYI most routers have a built in Ethernet switch with ports labeled LAN 1,2,3,4. Some cable modems have built in routers and 4-port switches.



You can do this:




  • Move existing router next to cable modem (call this the first router).

  • Disable wireless on this router.

  • Obtain a second router and configure like so:


    • Connect nothing to second router's WAN port.

    • Assign router IP in same subnet as first router, with an IP that won't get affected by first router's DHCP range.

    • Connect LAN port of first router to LAN port of second router.

    • Disable DHCP on second router.

    • Disable routing on this second router (you want only the wireless) if this is possible.

    • Configure wireless as you like on second router.

    • If you have wired devices near where you want the wireless to originate from, you can still connect them to the LAN ports of the second router, and it will work.




I have a similar setup, the "second router" in my case is an Asus RT-AC56U (256MB dual core unit with a big heatsink over the chipset, running OpenWRT derivative) which has a convenient "Access Point" setting that didn't require messing with a lot of settings after the fact. Any router with wireless that can be configured above should work though.






share|improve this answer















All cable modems in my experience will, on the user-accessible Ethernet-port side, only talk to the first device that connects to it or that responds to it. They will ignore all other devices until a reboot.



So even if you physically connect more than one device to the Ethernet port of a cable modem, which is possible if you use an Ethernet switch, it won't work.



FYI most routers have a built in Ethernet switch with ports labeled LAN 1,2,3,4. Some cable modems have built in routers and 4-port switches.



You can do this:




  • Move existing router next to cable modem (call this the first router).

  • Disable wireless on this router.

  • Obtain a second router and configure like so:


    • Connect nothing to second router's WAN port.

    • Assign router IP in same subnet as first router, with an IP that won't get affected by first router's DHCP range.

    • Connect LAN port of first router to LAN port of second router.

    • Disable DHCP on second router.

    • Disable routing on this second router (you want only the wireless) if this is possible.

    • Configure wireless as you like on second router.

    • If you have wired devices near where you want the wireless to originate from, you can still connect them to the LAN ports of the second router, and it will work.




I have a similar setup, the "second router" in my case is an Asus RT-AC56U (256MB dual core unit with a big heatsink over the chipset, running OpenWRT derivative) which has a convenient "Access Point" setting that didn't require messing with a lot of settings after the fact. Any router with wireless that can be configured above should work though.







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    Why disable wireless on the first router?

    – David Schwartz
    3 hours ago














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    Why disable wireless on the first router?

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Why disable wireless on the first router?

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Why disable wireless on the first router?

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