Does the bridge crew on the Enterprise NCC-1701 have the ability to see through the ceiling into space?
The USS Enterprise NCC-1701 appears to have a clear dome over the bridge:
There is a scene in the pilot that zooms in and peers into the bridge from space:
Does the crew have the ability to see through the dome into space?
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The USS Enterprise NCC-1701 appears to have a clear dome over the bridge:
There is a scene in the pilot that zooms in and peers into the bridge from space:
Does the crew have the ability to see through the dome into space?
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Isn't that screenshot from the remastered versions? Sheesh. First Lucas and the prequel trilogy, now Sternbach and Okuda have done it to the real Star Trek. Sigh.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 4:05
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This is the remastered shot, not the original, but the intent is the same.
– SteveED
Mar 24 '12 at 22:48
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@SteveED - But in the original, it's not clear the intent was that it was an actual see-through dome, as opposed to it just being a type of "iris in" shot (see the "iris" section on this page) where the iris started out conveniently fitted to the circular top of the ship, just as a clever visual transition that emphasized we were cutting to a scene located inside that section of the ship.
– Hypnosifl
Nov 20 '14 at 16:45
I never liked the idea of the bridge being right up there, in such a vulnerable position. It belonged smack in the center of the ship, surrounded by as much protection as possible. I'm sure that it was placed where it was simply for the sake of that zoom in shot that we saw in the earliest episodes. I can't think of any other reason.
– user42428
Mar 1 '15 at 3:22
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I always assumed it was a "cutaway" shot - that the ceiling was opaque.
– Anthony X
Sep 10 '16 at 20:10
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The USS Enterprise NCC-1701 appears to have a clear dome over the bridge:
There is a scene in the pilot that zooms in and peers into the bridge from space:
Does the crew have the ability to see through the dome into space?
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The USS Enterprise NCC-1701 appears to have a clear dome over the bridge:
There is a scene in the pilot that zooms in and peers into the bridge from space:
Does the crew have the ability to see through the dome into space?
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Isn't that screenshot from the remastered versions? Sheesh. First Lucas and the prequel trilogy, now Sternbach and Okuda have done it to the real Star Trek. Sigh.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 4:05
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This is the remastered shot, not the original, but the intent is the same.
– SteveED
Mar 24 '12 at 22:48
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@SteveED - But in the original, it's not clear the intent was that it was an actual see-through dome, as opposed to it just being a type of "iris in" shot (see the "iris" section on this page) where the iris started out conveniently fitted to the circular top of the ship, just as a clever visual transition that emphasized we were cutting to a scene located inside that section of the ship.
– Hypnosifl
Nov 20 '14 at 16:45
I never liked the idea of the bridge being right up there, in such a vulnerable position. It belonged smack in the center of the ship, surrounded by as much protection as possible. I'm sure that it was placed where it was simply for the sake of that zoom in shot that we saw in the earliest episodes. I can't think of any other reason.
– user42428
Mar 1 '15 at 3:22
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I always assumed it was a "cutaway" shot - that the ceiling was opaque.
– Anthony X
Sep 10 '16 at 20:10
add a comment |
1
Isn't that screenshot from the remastered versions? Sheesh. First Lucas and the prequel trilogy, now Sternbach and Okuda have done it to the real Star Trek. Sigh.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 4:05
2
This is the remastered shot, not the original, but the intent is the same.
– SteveED
Mar 24 '12 at 22:48
2
@SteveED - But in the original, it's not clear the intent was that it was an actual see-through dome, as opposed to it just being a type of "iris in" shot (see the "iris" section on this page) where the iris started out conveniently fitted to the circular top of the ship, just as a clever visual transition that emphasized we were cutting to a scene located inside that section of the ship.
– Hypnosifl
Nov 20 '14 at 16:45
I never liked the idea of the bridge being right up there, in such a vulnerable position. It belonged smack in the center of the ship, surrounded by as much protection as possible. I'm sure that it was placed where it was simply for the sake of that zoom in shot that we saw in the earliest episodes. I can't think of any other reason.
– user42428
Mar 1 '15 at 3:22
1
I always assumed it was a "cutaway" shot - that the ceiling was opaque.
– Anthony X
Sep 10 '16 at 20:10
1
1
Isn't that screenshot from the remastered versions? Sheesh. First Lucas and the prequel trilogy, now Sternbach and Okuda have done it to the real Star Trek. Sigh.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 4:05
Isn't that screenshot from the remastered versions? Sheesh. First Lucas and the prequel trilogy, now Sternbach and Okuda have done it to the real Star Trek. Sigh.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 4:05
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2
This is the remastered shot, not the original, but the intent is the same.
– SteveED
Mar 24 '12 at 22:48
This is the remastered shot, not the original, but the intent is the same.
– SteveED
Mar 24 '12 at 22:48
2
2
@SteveED - But in the original, it's not clear the intent was that it was an actual see-through dome, as opposed to it just being a type of "iris in" shot (see the "iris" section on this page) where the iris started out conveniently fitted to the circular top of the ship, just as a clever visual transition that emphasized we were cutting to a scene located inside that section of the ship.
– Hypnosifl
Nov 20 '14 at 16:45
@SteveED - But in the original, it's not clear the intent was that it was an actual see-through dome, as opposed to it just being a type of "iris in" shot (see the "iris" section on this page) where the iris started out conveniently fitted to the circular top of the ship, just as a clever visual transition that emphasized we were cutting to a scene located inside that section of the ship.
– Hypnosifl
Nov 20 '14 at 16:45
I never liked the idea of the bridge being right up there, in such a vulnerable position. It belonged smack in the center of the ship, surrounded by as much protection as possible. I'm sure that it was placed where it was simply for the sake of that zoom in shot that we saw in the earliest episodes. I can't think of any other reason.
– user42428
Mar 1 '15 at 3:22
I never liked the idea of the bridge being right up there, in such a vulnerable position. It belonged smack in the center of the ship, surrounded by as much protection as possible. I'm sure that it was placed where it was simply for the sake of that zoom in shot that we saw in the earliest episodes. I can't think of any other reason.
– user42428
Mar 1 '15 at 3:22
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I always assumed it was a "cutaway" shot - that the ceiling was opaque.
– Anthony X
Sep 10 '16 at 20:10
I always assumed it was a "cutaway" shot - that the ceiling was opaque.
– Anthony X
Sep 10 '16 at 20:10
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We never see the complete bridge ceiling from inside in any episode of TOS. We see it for the first time in TAS and it is definitely opaque.
It could have been that the producers realized that showing space on the inside ceiling was beyond the FX technology of the time and decided to give up on it after the pilot.
I believe that the pilot episode zoom in may have represented a more symbolic approach showing the audience that the bridge was on top (ie most important part) of the ship.
answered Mar 24 '12 at 2:32
SteveEDSteveED
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Roddenberry rejected TAS as non-canon as soon as they got the go to start on Star Trek: Phase II (which became _Star Trek: The Motion Picture). When he was offered the chance to do TAS, he thought he'd never have any other chance to do Trek on TV or film, so he took it, but once he got another chance, he basically wiped the slate clean and said TAS never happened.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 16:59
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Roddenberry accepted TAS as cannon by the 2nd season of TNG, and probably after he realized he could make quite a lot of money off of selling the rights to VHS and disc.
– SteveED
Mar 24 '12 at 22:47
Personally, I would find a transparent dome above my head in space VERY distracting... and likely disorienting as well. Talk about space-sickness...
– Omegacron
Nov 21 '14 at 15:28
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No. What you see is a retro filming style. The Dome was opaque.
I've discovered a scene in S03E02 to prove it:
Thanks to @TangoOversway for the screenshot idea.
answered Mar 24 '12 at 16:35
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Uh, that's the same part of the dome that I show in the screen shots -- the part above the red boarder on the lower ceiling with the lights on it.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 16:38
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But, it covers a large part of dome & gives a feeling that its really a dome (from interior view).
– S S
Mar 24 '12 at 16:44
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No more than shown in the wide shot of the empty bridge. Both basically come to the limit of the "dome" on the original bridge set.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 17:01
The point is to cover upper part of dome.. not surface area!
– S S
Mar 24 '12 at 17:04
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I like this answer. The image really makes the dome visible.
– Kalamane
May 12 '12 at 20:42
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In "The Cage", there's a shot at the beginning of the episode where the camera comes right through a transparent dome. It's evident that the Enterprise at least had a transparent dome at some point.
answered Mar 23 '12 at 23:18
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I edited my question to add a picture of it. Thanks!
– Major Stackings
Mar 23 '12 at 23:40
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The top dome over the bridge is opaque. Here are a few screenshots from various episodes to illustrate that. (By the way, that's an exterior light, not a view of the Bridge.)
answered Mar 23 '12 at 22:59
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None of your photos display bottom-to-up view of dome..
– S S
Mar 24 '12 at 1:12
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@SachinShekhar: While they don't show directly overhead, they do show the dome itself. And if you look at the models, such as the one linked to, there is a lit area above or overhead, so nothing on the exterior indicates any window, either.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 4:03
In real life there was no overhead dome to allow lights to be placed to brighten the set for shooting. Also, the walls came loose so that if they were filming one wall, the opposite one was pulled away for cameras.
– Oldcat
May 20 '14 at 17:27
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This image from "Is there In Truth No Beauty" appears to show a partial dome.
answered Jan 27 '15 at 2:52
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(yes, this is rather late)
There would, in reality, be zero need to have a transparent ceiling on a starship bridge. The bridge will very likely not be anywhere near the top of the ship in any case - why put your command center and senior personnel in such an obvious, exposed location? One good phaser hit and the ship is decapitated.
Oceangoing vessels, aircraft etc. put the bridge on top so they can see where they are going - ships that rely on sensors (like submarines) don't. A submarine's bridge is in the main pressure hull below the sail, and it's only there because the command officers need quick access to the periscope and occasionally the top of the sail. The latest generation of subs (Virginia class) don't use optical periscopes and the bridge is now more-or-less in the center of the boat on deck 2. Of course, this wasn't the case in 1966 (or even 1987).
answered May 20 '14 at 12:04
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While Starfleet is militarily structured, defense it not their sole purpose. At least equally important are exploration, diplomacy, research... None of the Enterprises were intended as ships of war. First contact becomes way harder if show up with a battle cruiser, with ranking officers hiding deep in the belly of the ship.
– Einer
May 20 '14 at 13:24
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A sub's bridge is on top of the sail. The compartment in the pressure hull with the periscope, chart table, and commanding officer is the control room.
– Codes with Hammer
May 20 '14 at 13:41
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I'll accept that technicality, but no one stays on a sub's top-of-the-sail bridge for any significant length of time. When the dive buzzer goes off, the 1-2 people that can fit up there quickly go below and close the hatch. It has no significant apparatus to operate the vessel. The sub's control room serves the same purpose as the bridge on any other vessel.
– paul
May 20 '14 at 13:51
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In this case, the Bridge of the Enterprise is indeed on top of the saucer under the dome.
– Major Stackings
May 20 '14 at 13:54
No, they weren't intended as warships, but every one is capable of stepping up to the plate when needed. If you were captain, would you travel the galaxy with just a thin piece of transparent aluminum between you and the hostilities of nature? ( 10-forward and the cabins with windows can be evacuated easily, the bridge cannot). My point is basically that there are zero reasons to put the bridge of a large spacecraft on the top with a big window. If anyone belongs up there with the dome it would be stellar cartography or the officer's lounge.
– paul
May 20 '14 at 13:57
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It might not make any sense but the top of the saucer section is where the bridge is located. It may well be that it has the facility to become transparent or opaque at command and may have the facility to cover up with blast shield when needed.
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We never see the complete bridge ceiling from inside in any episode of TOS. We see it for the first time in TAS and it is definitely opaque.
It could have been that the producers realized that showing space on the inside ceiling was beyond the FX technology of the time and decided to give up on it after the pilot.
I believe that the pilot episode zoom in may have represented a more symbolic approach showing the audience that the bridge was on top (ie most important part) of the ship.
answered Mar 24 '12 at 2:32
SteveEDSteveED
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Roddenberry rejected TAS as non-canon as soon as they got the go to start on Star Trek: Phase II (which became _Star Trek: The Motion Picture). When he was offered the chance to do TAS, he thought he'd never have any other chance to do Trek on TV or film, so he took it, but once he got another chance, he basically wiped the slate clean and said TAS never happened.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 16:59
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Roddenberry accepted TAS as cannon by the 2nd season of TNG, and probably after he realized he could make quite a lot of money off of selling the rights to VHS and disc.
– SteveED
Mar 24 '12 at 22:47
Personally, I would find a transparent dome above my head in space VERY distracting... and likely disorienting as well. Talk about space-sickness...
– Omegacron
Nov 21 '14 at 15:28
add a comment |
We never see the complete bridge ceiling from inside in any episode of TOS. We see it for the first time in TAS and it is definitely opaque.
It could have been that the producers realized that showing space on the inside ceiling was beyond the FX technology of the time and decided to give up on it after the pilot.
I believe that the pilot episode zoom in may have represented a more symbolic approach showing the audience that the bridge was on top (ie most important part) of the ship.
answered Mar 24 '12 at 2:32
SteveEDSteveED
4,85212152
Roddenberry rejected TAS as non-canon as soon as they got the go to start on Star Trek: Phase II (which became _Star Trek: The Motion Picture). When he was offered the chance to do TAS, he thought he'd never have any other chance to do Trek on TV or film, so he took it, but once he got another chance, he basically wiped the slate clean and said TAS never happened.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 16:59
1
Roddenberry accepted TAS as cannon by the 2nd season of TNG, and probably after he realized he could make quite a lot of money off of selling the rights to VHS and disc.
– SteveED
Mar 24 '12 at 22:47
Personally, I would find a transparent dome above my head in space VERY distracting... and likely disorienting as well. Talk about space-sickness...
– Omegacron
Nov 21 '14 at 15:28
add a comment |
We never see the complete bridge ceiling from inside in any episode of TOS. We see it for the first time in TAS and it is definitely opaque.
It could have been that the producers realized that showing space on the inside ceiling was beyond the FX technology of the time and decided to give up on it after the pilot.
I believe that the pilot episode zoom in may have represented a more symbolic approach showing the audience that the bridge was on top (ie most important part) of the ship.
answered Mar 24 '12 at 2:32
SteveEDSteveED
4,85212152
We never see the complete bridge ceiling from inside in any episode of TOS. We see it for the first time in TAS and it is definitely opaque.
It could have been that the producers realized that showing space on the inside ceiling was beyond the FX technology of the time and decided to give up on it after the pilot.
I believe that the pilot episode zoom in may have represented a more symbolic approach showing the audience that the bridge was on top (ie most important part) of the ship.
answered Mar 24 '12 at 2:32
SteveEDSteveED
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answered Mar 24 '12 at 2:32
SteveEDSteveED
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answered Mar 24 '12 at 2:32
SteveEDSteveED
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answered Mar 24 '12 at 2:32
SteveEDSteveED
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4,85212152
Roddenberry rejected TAS as non-canon as soon as they got the go to start on Star Trek: Phase II (which became _Star Trek: The Motion Picture). When he was offered the chance to do TAS, he thought he'd never have any other chance to do Trek on TV or film, so he took it, but once he got another chance, he basically wiped the slate clean and said TAS never happened.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 16:59
1
Roddenberry accepted TAS as cannon by the 2nd season of TNG, and probably after he realized he could make quite a lot of money off of selling the rights to VHS and disc.
– SteveED
Mar 24 '12 at 22:47
Personally, I would find a transparent dome above my head in space VERY distracting... and likely disorienting as well. Talk about space-sickness...
– Omegacron
Nov 21 '14 at 15:28
add a comment |
Roddenberry rejected TAS as non-canon as soon as they got the go to start on Star Trek: Phase II (which became _Star Trek: The Motion Picture). When he was offered the chance to do TAS, he thought he'd never have any other chance to do Trek on TV or film, so he took it, but once he got another chance, he basically wiped the slate clean and said TAS never happened.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 16:59
1
Roddenberry accepted TAS as cannon by the 2nd season of TNG, and probably after he realized he could make quite a lot of money off of selling the rights to VHS and disc.
– SteveED
Mar 24 '12 at 22:47
Personally, I would find a transparent dome above my head in space VERY distracting... and likely disorienting as well. Talk about space-sickness...
– Omegacron
Nov 21 '14 at 15:28
Roddenberry rejected TAS as non-canon as soon as they got the go to start on Star Trek: Phase II (which became _Star Trek: The Motion Picture). When he was offered the chance to do TAS, he thought he'd never have any other chance to do Trek on TV or film, so he took it, but once he got another chance, he basically wiped the slate clean and said TAS never happened.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 16:59
Roddenberry rejected TAS as non-canon as soon as they got the go to start on Star Trek: Phase II (which became _Star Trek: The Motion Picture). When he was offered the chance to do TAS, he thought he'd never have any other chance to do Trek on TV or film, so he took it, but once he got another chance, he basically wiped the slate clean and said TAS never happened.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 16:59
1
1
Roddenberry accepted TAS as cannon by the 2nd season of TNG, and probably after he realized he could make quite a lot of money off of selling the rights to VHS and disc.
– SteveED
Mar 24 '12 at 22:47
Roddenberry accepted TAS as cannon by the 2nd season of TNG, and probably after he realized he could make quite a lot of money off of selling the rights to VHS and disc.
– SteveED
Mar 24 '12 at 22:47
Personally, I would find a transparent dome above my head in space VERY distracting... and likely disorienting as well. Talk about space-sickness...
– Omegacron
Nov 21 '14 at 15:28
Personally, I would find a transparent dome above my head in space VERY distracting... and likely disorienting as well. Talk about space-sickness...
– Omegacron
Nov 21 '14 at 15:28
add a comment |
No. What you see is a retro filming style. The Dome was opaque.
I've discovered a scene in S03E02 to prove it:
Thanks to @TangoOversway for the screenshot idea.
answered Mar 24 '12 at 16:35
S SS S
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Uh, that's the same part of the dome that I show in the screen shots -- the part above the red boarder on the lower ceiling with the lights on it.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 16:38
1
But, it covers a large part of dome & gives a feeling that its really a dome (from interior view).
– S S
Mar 24 '12 at 16:44
1
No more than shown in the wide shot of the empty bridge. Both basically come to the limit of the "dome" on the original bridge set.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 17:01
The point is to cover upper part of dome.. not surface area!
– S S
Mar 24 '12 at 17:04
2
I like this answer. The image really makes the dome visible.
– Kalamane
May 12 '12 at 20:42
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show 10 more comments
No. What you see is a retro filming style. The Dome was opaque.
I've discovered a scene in S03E02 to prove it:
Thanks to @TangoOversway for the screenshot idea.
answered Mar 24 '12 at 16:35
S SS S
56.2k93429836
Uh, that's the same part of the dome that I show in the screen shots -- the part above the red boarder on the lower ceiling with the lights on it.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 16:38
1
But, it covers a large part of dome & gives a feeling that its really a dome (from interior view).
– S S
Mar 24 '12 at 16:44
1
No more than shown in the wide shot of the empty bridge. Both basically come to the limit of the "dome" on the original bridge set.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 17:01
The point is to cover upper part of dome.. not surface area!
– S S
Mar 24 '12 at 17:04
2
I like this answer. The image really makes the dome visible.
– Kalamane
May 12 '12 at 20:42
|
show 10 more comments
No. What you see is a retro filming style. The Dome was opaque.
I've discovered a scene in S03E02 to prove it:
Thanks to @TangoOversway for the screenshot idea.
answered Mar 24 '12 at 16:35
S SS S
56.2k93429836
No. What you see is a retro filming style. The Dome was opaque.
I've discovered a scene in S03E02 to prove it:
Thanks to @TangoOversway for the screenshot idea.
answered Mar 24 '12 at 16:35
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answered Mar 24 '12 at 16:35
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answered Mar 24 '12 at 16:35
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answered Mar 24 '12 at 16:35
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Uh, that's the same part of the dome that I show in the screen shots -- the part above the red boarder on the lower ceiling with the lights on it.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 16:38
1
But, it covers a large part of dome & gives a feeling that its really a dome (from interior view).
– S S
Mar 24 '12 at 16:44
1
No more than shown in the wide shot of the empty bridge. Both basically come to the limit of the "dome" on the original bridge set.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 17:01
The point is to cover upper part of dome.. not surface area!
– S S
Mar 24 '12 at 17:04
2
I like this answer. The image really makes the dome visible.
– Kalamane
May 12 '12 at 20:42
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show 10 more comments
Uh, that's the same part of the dome that I show in the screen shots -- the part above the red boarder on the lower ceiling with the lights on it.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 16:38
1
But, it covers a large part of dome & gives a feeling that its really a dome (from interior view).
– S S
Mar 24 '12 at 16:44
1
No more than shown in the wide shot of the empty bridge. Both basically come to the limit of the "dome" on the original bridge set.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 17:01
The point is to cover upper part of dome.. not surface area!
– S S
Mar 24 '12 at 17:04
2
I like this answer. The image really makes the dome visible.
– Kalamane
May 12 '12 at 20:42
Uh, that's the same part of the dome that I show in the screen shots -- the part above the red boarder on the lower ceiling with the lights on it.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 16:38
Uh, that's the same part of the dome that I show in the screen shots -- the part above the red boarder on the lower ceiling with the lights on it.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 16:38
1
1
But, it covers a large part of dome & gives a feeling that its really a dome (from interior view).
– S S
Mar 24 '12 at 16:44
But, it covers a large part of dome & gives a feeling that its really a dome (from interior view).
– S S
Mar 24 '12 at 16:44
1
1
No more than shown in the wide shot of the empty bridge. Both basically come to the limit of the "dome" on the original bridge set.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 17:01
No more than shown in the wide shot of the empty bridge. Both basically come to the limit of the "dome" on the original bridge set.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 17:01
The point is to cover upper part of dome.. not surface area!
– S S
Mar 24 '12 at 17:04
The point is to cover upper part of dome.. not surface area!
– S S
Mar 24 '12 at 17:04
2
2
I like this answer. The image really makes the dome visible.
– Kalamane
May 12 '12 at 20:42
I like this answer. The image really makes the dome visible.
– Kalamane
May 12 '12 at 20:42
|
show 10 more comments
In "The Cage", there's a shot at the beginning of the episode where the camera comes right through a transparent dome. It's evident that the Enterprise at least had a transparent dome at some point.
answered Mar 23 '12 at 23:18
Bob WarwickBob Warwick
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Mar 23 '12 at 23:40
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In "The Cage", there's a shot at the beginning of the episode where the camera comes right through a transparent dome. It's evident that the Enterprise at least had a transparent dome at some point.
answered Mar 23 '12 at 23:18
Bob WarwickBob Warwick
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I edited my question to add a picture of it. Thanks!
– Major Stackings
Mar 23 '12 at 23:40
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In "The Cage", there's a shot at the beginning of the episode where the camera comes right through a transparent dome. It's evident that the Enterprise at least had a transparent dome at some point.
answered Mar 23 '12 at 23:18
Bob WarwickBob Warwick
3,7651735
In "The Cage", there's a shot at the beginning of the episode where the camera comes right through a transparent dome. It's evident that the Enterprise at least had a transparent dome at some point.
answered Mar 23 '12 at 23:18
Bob WarwickBob Warwick
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answered Mar 23 '12 at 23:18
Bob WarwickBob Warwick
3,7651735
answered Mar 23 '12 at 23:18
Bob WarwickBob Warwick
3,7651735
answered Mar 23 '12 at 23:18
Bob WarwickBob Warwick
3,7651735
3,7651735
I edited my question to add a picture of it. Thanks!
– Major Stackings
Mar 23 '12 at 23:40
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I edited my question to add a picture of it. Thanks!
– Major Stackings
Mar 23 '12 at 23:40
I edited my question to add a picture of it. Thanks!
– Major Stackings
Mar 23 '12 at 23:40
I edited my question to add a picture of it. Thanks!
– Major Stackings
Mar 23 '12 at 23:40
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The top dome over the bridge is opaque. Here are a few screenshots from various episodes to illustrate that. (By the way, that's an exterior light, not a view of the Bridge.)
answered Mar 23 '12 at 22:59
TangoTango
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None of your photos display bottom-to-up view of dome..
– S S
Mar 24 '12 at 1:12
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@SachinShekhar: While they don't show directly overhead, they do show the dome itself. And if you look at the models, such as the one linked to, there is a lit area above or overhead, so nothing on the exterior indicates any window, either.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 4:03
In real life there was no overhead dome to allow lights to be placed to brighten the set for shooting. Also, the walls came loose so that if they were filming one wall, the opposite one was pulled away for cameras.
– Oldcat
May 20 '14 at 17:27
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The top dome over the bridge is opaque. Here are a few screenshots from various episodes to illustrate that. (By the way, that's an exterior light, not a view of the Bridge.)
answered Mar 23 '12 at 22:59
TangoTango
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None of your photos display bottom-to-up view of dome..
– S S
Mar 24 '12 at 1:12
1
@SachinShekhar: While they don't show directly overhead, they do show the dome itself. And if you look at the models, such as the one linked to, there is a lit area above or overhead, so nothing on the exterior indicates any window, either.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 4:03
In real life there was no overhead dome to allow lights to be placed to brighten the set for shooting. Also, the walls came loose so that if they were filming one wall, the opposite one was pulled away for cameras.
– Oldcat
May 20 '14 at 17:27
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The top dome over the bridge is opaque. Here are a few screenshots from various episodes to illustrate that. (By the way, that's an exterior light, not a view of the Bridge.)
answered Mar 23 '12 at 22:59
TangoTango
70.8k66399691
The top dome over the bridge is opaque. Here are a few screenshots from various episodes to illustrate that. (By the way, that's an exterior light, not a view of the Bridge.)
answered Mar 23 '12 at 22:59
TangoTango
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edited Mar 23 '12 at 23:21
answered Mar 23 '12 at 22:59
TangoTango
70.8k66399691
answered Mar 23 '12 at 22:59
TangoTango
70.8k66399691
answered Mar 23 '12 at 22:59
TangoTango
70.8k66399691
70.8k66399691
2
None of your photos display bottom-to-up view of dome..
– S S
Mar 24 '12 at 1:12
1
@SachinShekhar: While they don't show directly overhead, they do show the dome itself. And if you look at the models, such as the one linked to, there is a lit area above or overhead, so nothing on the exterior indicates any window, either.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 4:03
In real life there was no overhead dome to allow lights to be placed to brighten the set for shooting. Also, the walls came loose so that if they were filming one wall, the opposite one was pulled away for cameras.
– Oldcat
May 20 '14 at 17:27
add a comment |
2
None of your photos display bottom-to-up view of dome..
– S S
Mar 24 '12 at 1:12
1
@SachinShekhar: While they don't show directly overhead, they do show the dome itself. And if you look at the models, such as the one linked to, there is a lit area above or overhead, so nothing on the exterior indicates any window, either.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 4:03
In real life there was no overhead dome to allow lights to be placed to brighten the set for shooting. Also, the walls came loose so that if they were filming one wall, the opposite one was pulled away for cameras.
– Oldcat
May 20 '14 at 17:27
2
2
None of your photos display bottom-to-up view of dome..
– S S
Mar 24 '12 at 1:12
None of your photos display bottom-to-up view of dome..
– S S
Mar 24 '12 at 1:12
1
1
@SachinShekhar: While they don't show directly overhead, they do show the dome itself. And if you look at the models, such as the one linked to, there is a lit area above or overhead, so nothing on the exterior indicates any window, either.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 4:03
@SachinShekhar: While they don't show directly overhead, they do show the dome itself. And if you look at the models, such as the one linked to, there is a lit area above or overhead, so nothing on the exterior indicates any window, either.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 4:03
In real life there was no overhead dome to allow lights to be placed to brighten the set for shooting. Also, the walls came loose so that if they were filming one wall, the opposite one was pulled away for cameras.
– Oldcat
May 20 '14 at 17:27
In real life there was no overhead dome to allow lights to be placed to brighten the set for shooting. Also, the walls came loose so that if they were filming one wall, the opposite one was pulled away for cameras.
– Oldcat
May 20 '14 at 17:27
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This image from "Is there In Truth No Beauty" appears to show a partial dome.
answered Jan 27 '15 at 2:52
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This image from "Is there In Truth No Beauty" appears to show a partial dome.
answered Jan 27 '15 at 2:52
Michael BrunoMichael Bruno
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This image from "Is there In Truth No Beauty" appears to show a partial dome.
answered Jan 27 '15 at 2:52
Michael BrunoMichael Bruno
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This image from "Is there In Truth No Beauty" appears to show a partial dome.
answered Jan 27 '15 at 2:52
Michael BrunoMichael Bruno
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answered Jan 27 '15 at 2:52
Michael BrunoMichael Bruno
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answered Jan 27 '15 at 2:52
Michael BrunoMichael Bruno
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answered Jan 27 '15 at 2:52
Michael BrunoMichael Bruno
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(yes, this is rather late)
There would, in reality, be zero need to have a transparent ceiling on a starship bridge. The bridge will very likely not be anywhere near the top of the ship in any case - why put your command center and senior personnel in such an obvious, exposed location? One good phaser hit and the ship is decapitated.
Oceangoing vessels, aircraft etc. put the bridge on top so they can see where they are going - ships that rely on sensors (like submarines) don't. A submarine's bridge is in the main pressure hull below the sail, and it's only there because the command officers need quick access to the periscope and occasionally the top of the sail. The latest generation of subs (Virginia class) don't use optical periscopes and the bridge is now more-or-less in the center of the boat on deck 2. Of course, this wasn't the case in 1966 (or even 1987).
answered May 20 '14 at 12:04
paulpaul
1502
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While Starfleet is militarily structured, defense it not their sole purpose. At least equally important are exploration, diplomacy, research... None of the Enterprises were intended as ships of war. First contact becomes way harder if show up with a battle cruiser, with ranking officers hiding deep in the belly of the ship.
– Einer
May 20 '14 at 13:24
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A sub's bridge is on top of the sail. The compartment in the pressure hull with the periscope, chart table, and commanding officer is the control room.
– Codes with Hammer
May 20 '14 at 13:41
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I'll accept that technicality, but no one stays on a sub's top-of-the-sail bridge for any significant length of time. When the dive buzzer goes off, the 1-2 people that can fit up there quickly go below and close the hatch. It has no significant apparatus to operate the vessel. The sub's control room serves the same purpose as the bridge on any other vessel.
– paul
May 20 '14 at 13:51
1
In this case, the Bridge of the Enterprise is indeed on top of the saucer under the dome.
– Major Stackings
May 20 '14 at 13:54
No, they weren't intended as warships, but every one is capable of stepping up to the plate when needed. If you were captain, would you travel the galaxy with just a thin piece of transparent aluminum between you and the hostilities of nature? ( 10-forward and the cabins with windows can be evacuated easily, the bridge cannot). My point is basically that there are zero reasons to put the bridge of a large spacecraft on the top with a big window. If anyone belongs up there with the dome it would be stellar cartography or the officer's lounge.
– paul
May 20 '14 at 13:57
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(yes, this is rather late)
There would, in reality, be zero need to have a transparent ceiling on a starship bridge. The bridge will very likely not be anywhere near the top of the ship in any case - why put your command center and senior personnel in such an obvious, exposed location? One good phaser hit and the ship is decapitated.
Oceangoing vessels, aircraft etc. put the bridge on top so they can see where they are going - ships that rely on sensors (like submarines) don't. A submarine's bridge is in the main pressure hull below the sail, and it's only there because the command officers need quick access to the periscope and occasionally the top of the sail. The latest generation of subs (Virginia class) don't use optical periscopes and the bridge is now more-or-less in the center of the boat on deck 2. Of course, this wasn't the case in 1966 (or even 1987).
answered May 20 '14 at 12:04
paulpaul
1502
1
While Starfleet is militarily structured, defense it not their sole purpose. At least equally important are exploration, diplomacy, research... None of the Enterprises were intended as ships of war. First contact becomes way harder if show up with a battle cruiser, with ranking officers hiding deep in the belly of the ship.
– Einer
May 20 '14 at 13:24
2
A sub's bridge is on top of the sail. The compartment in the pressure hull with the periscope, chart table, and commanding officer is the control room.
– Codes with Hammer
May 20 '14 at 13:41
1
I'll accept that technicality, but no one stays on a sub's top-of-the-sail bridge for any significant length of time. When the dive buzzer goes off, the 1-2 people that can fit up there quickly go below and close the hatch. It has no significant apparatus to operate the vessel. The sub's control room serves the same purpose as the bridge on any other vessel.
– paul
May 20 '14 at 13:51
1
In this case, the Bridge of the Enterprise is indeed on top of the saucer under the dome.
– Major Stackings
May 20 '14 at 13:54
No, they weren't intended as warships, but every one is capable of stepping up to the plate when needed. If you were captain, would you travel the galaxy with just a thin piece of transparent aluminum between you and the hostilities of nature? ( 10-forward and the cabins with windows can be evacuated easily, the bridge cannot). My point is basically that there are zero reasons to put the bridge of a large spacecraft on the top with a big window. If anyone belongs up there with the dome it would be stellar cartography or the officer's lounge.
– paul
May 20 '14 at 13:57
|
show 1 more comment
(yes, this is rather late)
There would, in reality, be zero need to have a transparent ceiling on a starship bridge. The bridge will very likely not be anywhere near the top of the ship in any case - why put your command center and senior personnel in such an obvious, exposed location? One good phaser hit and the ship is decapitated.
Oceangoing vessels, aircraft etc. put the bridge on top so they can see where they are going - ships that rely on sensors (like submarines) don't. A submarine's bridge is in the main pressure hull below the sail, and it's only there because the command officers need quick access to the periscope and occasionally the top of the sail. The latest generation of subs (Virginia class) don't use optical periscopes and the bridge is now more-or-less in the center of the boat on deck 2. Of course, this wasn't the case in 1966 (or even 1987).
answered May 20 '14 at 12:04
paulpaul
1502
(yes, this is rather late)
There would, in reality, be zero need to have a transparent ceiling on a starship bridge. The bridge will very likely not be anywhere near the top of the ship in any case - why put your command center and senior personnel in such an obvious, exposed location? One good phaser hit and the ship is decapitated.
Oceangoing vessels, aircraft etc. put the bridge on top so they can see where they are going - ships that rely on sensors (like submarines) don't. A submarine's bridge is in the main pressure hull below the sail, and it's only there because the command officers need quick access to the periscope and occasionally the top of the sail. The latest generation of subs (Virginia class) don't use optical periscopes and the bridge is now more-or-less in the center of the boat on deck 2. Of course, this wasn't the case in 1966 (or even 1987).
answered May 20 '14 at 12:04
paulpaul
1502
answered May 20 '14 at 12:04
paulpaul
1502
answered May 20 '14 at 12:04
paulpaul
1502
answered May 20 '14 at 12:04
paulpaul
1502
1502
1
While Starfleet is militarily structured, defense it not their sole purpose. At least equally important are exploration, diplomacy, research... None of the Enterprises were intended as ships of war. First contact becomes way harder if show up with a battle cruiser, with ranking officers hiding deep in the belly of the ship.
– Einer
May 20 '14 at 13:24
2
A sub's bridge is on top of the sail. The compartment in the pressure hull with the periscope, chart table, and commanding officer is the control room.
– Codes with Hammer
May 20 '14 at 13:41
1
I'll accept that technicality, but no one stays on a sub's top-of-the-sail bridge for any significant length of time. When the dive buzzer goes off, the 1-2 people that can fit up there quickly go below and close the hatch. It has no significant apparatus to operate the vessel. The sub's control room serves the same purpose as the bridge on any other vessel.
– paul
May 20 '14 at 13:51
1
In this case, the Bridge of the Enterprise is indeed on top of the saucer under the dome.
– Major Stackings
May 20 '14 at 13:54
No, they weren't intended as warships, but every one is capable of stepping up to the plate when needed. If you were captain, would you travel the galaxy with just a thin piece of transparent aluminum between you and the hostilities of nature? ( 10-forward and the cabins with windows can be evacuated easily, the bridge cannot). My point is basically that there are zero reasons to put the bridge of a large spacecraft on the top with a big window. If anyone belongs up there with the dome it would be stellar cartography or the officer's lounge.
– paul
May 20 '14 at 13:57
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show 1 more comment
1
While Starfleet is militarily structured, defense it not their sole purpose. At least equally important are exploration, diplomacy, research... None of the Enterprises were intended as ships of war. First contact becomes way harder if show up with a battle cruiser, with ranking officers hiding deep in the belly of the ship.
– Einer
May 20 '14 at 13:24
2
A sub's bridge is on top of the sail. The compartment in the pressure hull with the periscope, chart table, and commanding officer is the control room.
– Codes with Hammer
May 20 '14 at 13:41
1
I'll accept that technicality, but no one stays on a sub's top-of-the-sail bridge for any significant length of time. When the dive buzzer goes off, the 1-2 people that can fit up there quickly go below and close the hatch. It has no significant apparatus to operate the vessel. The sub's control room serves the same purpose as the bridge on any other vessel.
– paul
May 20 '14 at 13:51
1
In this case, the Bridge of the Enterprise is indeed on top of the saucer under the dome.
– Major Stackings
May 20 '14 at 13:54
No, they weren't intended as warships, but every one is capable of stepping up to the plate when needed. If you were captain, would you travel the galaxy with just a thin piece of transparent aluminum between you and the hostilities of nature? ( 10-forward and the cabins with windows can be evacuated easily, the bridge cannot). My point is basically that there are zero reasons to put the bridge of a large spacecraft on the top with a big window. If anyone belongs up there with the dome it would be stellar cartography or the officer's lounge.
– paul
May 20 '14 at 13:57
1
1
While Starfleet is militarily structured, defense it not their sole purpose. At least equally important are exploration, diplomacy, research... None of the Enterprises were intended as ships of war. First contact becomes way harder if show up with a battle cruiser, with ranking officers hiding deep in the belly of the ship.
– Einer
May 20 '14 at 13:24
While Starfleet is militarily structured, defense it not their sole purpose. At least equally important are exploration, diplomacy, research... None of the Enterprises were intended as ships of war. First contact becomes way harder if show up with a battle cruiser, with ranking officers hiding deep in the belly of the ship.
– Einer
May 20 '14 at 13:24
2
2
A sub's bridge is on top of the sail. The compartment in the pressure hull with the periscope, chart table, and commanding officer is the control room.
– Codes with Hammer
May 20 '14 at 13:41
A sub's bridge is on top of the sail. The compartment in the pressure hull with the periscope, chart table, and commanding officer is the control room.
– Codes with Hammer
May 20 '14 at 13:41
1
1
I'll accept that technicality, but no one stays on a sub's top-of-the-sail bridge for any significant length of time. When the dive buzzer goes off, the 1-2 people that can fit up there quickly go below and close the hatch. It has no significant apparatus to operate the vessel. The sub's control room serves the same purpose as the bridge on any other vessel.
– paul
May 20 '14 at 13:51
I'll accept that technicality, but no one stays on a sub's top-of-the-sail bridge for any significant length of time. When the dive buzzer goes off, the 1-2 people that can fit up there quickly go below and close the hatch. It has no significant apparatus to operate the vessel. The sub's control room serves the same purpose as the bridge on any other vessel.
– paul
May 20 '14 at 13:51
1
1
In this case, the Bridge of the Enterprise is indeed on top of the saucer under the dome.
– Major Stackings
May 20 '14 at 13:54
In this case, the Bridge of the Enterprise is indeed on top of the saucer under the dome.
– Major Stackings
May 20 '14 at 13:54
No, they weren't intended as warships, but every one is capable of stepping up to the plate when needed. If you were captain, would you travel the galaxy with just a thin piece of transparent aluminum between you and the hostilities of nature? ( 10-forward and the cabins with windows can be evacuated easily, the bridge cannot). My point is basically that there are zero reasons to put the bridge of a large spacecraft on the top with a big window. If anyone belongs up there with the dome it would be stellar cartography or the officer's lounge.
– paul
May 20 '14 at 13:57
No, they weren't intended as warships, but every one is capable of stepping up to the plate when needed. If you were captain, would you travel the galaxy with just a thin piece of transparent aluminum between you and the hostilities of nature? ( 10-forward and the cabins with windows can be evacuated easily, the bridge cannot). My point is basically that there are zero reasons to put the bridge of a large spacecraft on the top with a big window. If anyone belongs up there with the dome it would be stellar cartography or the officer's lounge.
– paul
May 20 '14 at 13:57
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It might not make any sense but the top of the saucer section is where the bridge is located. It may well be that it has the facility to become transparent or opaque at command and may have the facility to cover up with blast shield when needed.
answered Sep 10 '14 at 15:46
SWBSWB
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Welcome to the site. Do you have any evidence to support your answer?
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It might not make any sense but the top of the saucer section is where the bridge is located. It may well be that it has the facility to become transparent or opaque at command and may have the facility to cover up with blast shield when needed.
answered Sep 10 '14 at 15:46
SWBSWB
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Welcome to the site. Do you have any evidence to support your answer?
– Moogle
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It might not make any sense but the top of the saucer section is where the bridge is located. It may well be that it has the facility to become transparent or opaque at command and may have the facility to cover up with blast shield when needed.
answered Sep 10 '14 at 15:46
SWBSWB
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It might not make any sense but the top of the saucer section is where the bridge is located. It may well be that it has the facility to become transparent or opaque at command and may have the facility to cover up with blast shield when needed.
answered Sep 10 '14 at 15:46
SWBSWB
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answered Sep 10 '14 at 15:46
SWBSWB
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answered Sep 10 '14 at 15:46
SWBSWB
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answered Sep 10 '14 at 15:46
SWBSWB
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Welcome to the site. Do you have any evidence to support your answer?
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Welcome to the site. Do you have any evidence to support your answer?
– Moogle
Sep 10 '14 at 16:10
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Welcome to the site. Do you have any evidence to support your answer?
– Moogle
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Isn't that screenshot from the remastered versions? Sheesh. First Lucas and the prequel trilogy, now Sternbach and Okuda have done it to the real Star Trek. Sigh.
– Tango
Mar 24 '12 at 4:05
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This is the remastered shot, not the original, but the intent is the same.
– SteveED
Mar 24 '12 at 22:48
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@SteveED - But in the original, it's not clear the intent was that it was an actual see-through dome, as opposed to it just being a type of "iris in" shot (see the "iris" section on this page) where the iris started out conveniently fitted to the circular top of the ship, just as a clever visual transition that emphasized we were cutting to a scene located inside that section of the ship.
– Hypnosifl
Nov 20 '14 at 16:45
I never liked the idea of the bridge being right up there, in such a vulnerable position. It belonged smack in the center of the ship, surrounded by as much protection as possible. I'm sure that it was placed where it was simply for the sake of that zoom in shot that we saw in the earliest episodes. I can't think of any other reason.
– user42428
Mar 1 '15 at 3:22
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I always assumed it was a "cutaway" shot - that the ceiling was opaque.
– Anthony X
Sep 10 '16 at 20:10